Please!

Consider porting Java server to Linux. There
are many like myself that use Sun workstations
at work and (God help us!)  customer  PC's at 
home, have turned to Linux for a low cost
development platform. Yes, We'd all like to have
Ultra II's at home (A SPARC 5 would be nice)
howerver, Linux is the tool of choice and
having Javaserver running locally would be a
plus.
(Review ID: 21506)
======================================================================
Another request not just for java_web but for JDK and Swing
  xxxxx@xxxxx   1998-03-20:
======================================================================
And the JMF as well

N/A

What this really means, of course, is _support_ JWS on Linux.  It runs on Linux just fine - there's even a HOWTO.
  xxxxx@xxxxx   1998-03-01

This bug was originally filed against java_web with the synopsis "PLEASE Port 
Java Server to Linux!!!".  It has been effectively commandeered on the JDC
by requests for a Sun-supported Linux port of the full JDK, so the synopsis and
category have been changed to more accurately reflect the developer's
interests in this RFE.  

(As noted above, the Java Server DOES run on Linux already.)

  xxxxx@xxxxx   1998-05-13


This bug takes a lot of hits on the JDC, so I'll update this
one time where everyone can see it.

An announcement went public earlier this month.  For news
about the Linux porting project, take a look at this URL:

  http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/9811/sunflash.981102.4.html

  xxxxx@xxxxx   1998-11-12

integrated into cricket, rc1

  xxxxx@xxxxx   1999-12-07

Please support a Linux JDK port.

The individual Linux JDK ports are OK, but
not really solid enough for real work.
If "runs anywhere" is to mean more than
"runs on Solaris", please support a solid
Linux JDK port. Why doesn't the Java WorkShop
work under Linux?

Many of us poor developers have a simple choice
between developing on Windows or developing on
Linux.  We just don't have a sparcstation at work
or home.  The best blow you could deliver to
Microsoft is making Java run fast and reliable on
Linux.

Keep us developers from being swallowed up by 
Microsoft and their monopolistic ways.  Give 
the Linux community access to a solid JDK and
JRE!!

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Porting the JDK and Java Server to Linux not only
benefits Linux Developers, but also Sun Microsystems.
The more popular platforms your software runs on,
the more competitive it will be.  Notice how MS
is scrambling to get IE working under various UNIX
platforms; this corroborates the value of supporting
popular UNIX implementations.  Refusal to support
"competing" hardware/software/OSes has historically
been the downfall of many computer corporations.

Not only the Java Server, the full JDK (or
at least a really fine working JRE) would be
*very* nice.

Please, port JDK to Linux with normal 
international support!

Please support the folks working on he Linux JDK port. We all want to crush
Microsoft and we should work together!

I already use an unsupported JDK for Linux, but
especially with swing there are some "issues" that
a real Sun JDK could take care of.

Please support Linux JDK.  If we do not get a viable
solution on Linux, most of us will be forced to 
switch to Microsoft solutions.  That would be a
real loss for Sun.  I personally have tried to 
keep Unix (and Sun) alive at work, but my 
attempts are being overshadowed by everyone's
support of NT and Win95.

Please Port JDK to linux

Linux does not compete w/ Sun, it
complements it; Solaris engineers use
Linux at home.  As other threads here
suggest, a robust JDK on Linux is as much
"enabling technology" for supporting Sparc
sales as JDK on Solaris is.
-- PLEASE PLEASE HELP US HELP YOU --

please!

To run Java Web Server (1.1) on Linux,
edit the jserv script in the bin dir to fix
the path to fstab. Edit the properties file for the
web server 
("properties/server/javawebserver/server.properties")
and comment out the uid/gid changes on line 38/42-ish.
 It can then be run with
"jserv -nojre"
Ignore the can't load native libraries error as they
are only used to change the uid/gid.
That's it (I hope :)
Not perfect, but it's enough to play with.
I have got a version of the native code which
compiles, but doesn't work. I can pass that on
to someone who has time to take it further.
This was done using JDK 1.1.3.

A number of us at Fujitsu develop large, server-type applications with Java.
Solaris is FNC's platform of choice;
however, those of us that telecommute use Linux as a serious development
platform. A stable, reliable and *current* Java
implementation for Linux is essential to us.

Please put more effort into porting the JDK to linux.

I say only one thing:
we want to develop with java and Linux.
you want to kill microsoft domain.
Give us a chance. Develop link JDK.

I would also use a port of the JDK to Linix.

Sounds good to me!!!

I hate Microsoft.
Nuff' said. :)

I too wish to develop Java code on Linux instead
of Windows and would like to see the support from
Sun on this (JDK, Java Server, Java Workshop, ...)

That would be great.

Suns are great servers - but having a cheap
development platform for students and computers
at home for employees is a great pro. Linux
is very good in that respect - if you go linux
at home, you're more likely to choose Sun at work.
And good Sun workstations are seldom an alternative
at home.

Supporting a JDK (with JIT, please) would be very good for the entre Linux
community.

Support Linux with an official JDK.

If it weren't for Linux, Coherent, and Minix,
I'd be a really good Win32 programmer now.
But I wound up being really good on UNIX instead.
Now at work I transfer a lot of UNIX skills to
my coworkers.  I help my company get more out 
of its Solaris servers.  Because of Linux, 
people like me are assets to Sun.
I could be an asset to Microsoft. The Linux JDK 
is one of a few factors influencing that choice.

If it weren't for Linux, Coherent, and Minix,
I'd be a really good Win32 programmer now.
But I wound up being really good on UNIX instead.
Now at work I transfer a lot of UNIX skills to
my coworkers.  I help my company get more out 
of its Solaris servers.  Because of Linux, 
people like me are assets to Sun.
I could be an asset to Microsoft. The Linux JDK 
is one of a few factors influencing that choice.

Please support the efforts to port the JDK to 
Linux.  Thanks.

I'm in favor of a full JDK port. 

I've just moved all of my votes to this bug.  Our
customers want our Java server side app to run
under linux, and we need an official port of the
JDK.

If it weren't for Linux, Coherent, and Minix,
I'd be a really good Win32 programmer now.
But I wound up being really good on UNIX instead.
Now at work I transfer a lot of UNIX skills to
my coworkers.  I help my company get more out 
of its Solaris servers.  Because of Linux, 
people like me are assets to Sun.
I could be an asset to Microsoft. The Linux JDK 
is one of a few factors influencing that choice.

Please support the guys making his work on he
Linux JDK port.

JDK for linux would be nice also!

Please support the Linux JDK. Linux programmers
are probably the keenest java evangelists !

This would help us that develop at home for a living!

Please please port JDK 1.2 to Linux.
I'd like also to see the Linux ports of an additional
APIs like JMF

An offical or semi-offical Linux JDK would be great

Linux is gaining market share at a faster rate
than any other os (including windows... ick).  If
SUN wants Java to succeed as the next gen.
programming language (and environment) they should
port all of their Java products to Linux (includeing
the jdk).

This bug has my three votes

I get the feeling that supporting a Linux JDK would not cost Sun much compared
to the bang created.

Write once, run everywhere includes :
write on linux, run on linux.
workaround: use unsupported implementations of jdk.
Thanks...

It would be great to have javaserver on linux, 
so I can develop at home some things that I use 
on the solaris system at university.

The Linux community is your ally!  Please help us
build solid JDK/JRE in step with the Solaris &
Windoze releases.

While actual porting of the JDK may be done by
members of the linux comunity, it would be very 
helpfull if Sun would give active support by 
suplying early code access and help on problematic
issues. We are no 'gimmies' but we need a little 
help in breaking the MS strangle hold on desktop
computers.

Have you considered just hiring a full time
person to work on getting a high-quality java
port to Linux?  Giving the vast armies of
developers with x86 machines an alternative to
Windows for serious Java development would
mean many java programmers who won't be seduced
by the Microsoft Virtual Machine,  J/Direct and
other Microsoft attempts to hijack Java.  It
would be cheap.

I might consider Java to be more 
interesting if Sun would support it 
better (like OFFICIAL support?) on Linux.

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Me too !
Please port and suppport JDK on Linux yourselves.
I daily use the Blackdown linux port of JDK 1.1.3
whih is great, but there are no signs of anything
later appearing.

I have been using JDK 1.1.3 for linux
and it rocks from www.blackdown.org and it rocks!!
Now all I need is for you guys to do it and make
it REALLY ROCK!

Full support for JDK for Linux please?
It cannot be hard. I daily use a 3rd party version.

Supporting Java Linux is essential to Java's
ultimate success. Those of us in the Linux
community using Java to develop enterprise
applications will only wait so long for official
support from Sun. We all realize the amount of
commitment this requires from Javasoft. However,
if something is not done to address this
neglection, we WILL find another solution,
we always have. We believe in "Write once, Run anywhere".
Sun has to do it's part to make that a reality
for a significant portion of the computing
community (the Linux community). We will not
beg forever. Your move, Sun.

What about porting JDK to Linux!

Please support the JDK for Linux

Here is a copy of a letter I sent to Mark Tebbe at Infoworld
magazine (he is a regular columnist there):
Mark,
      I must say without hesitation that Sun Microsystems
could find themselves out of business within the next
2 years if they fail to support and provide an up to date
version of the JVM and JDK for Java on the Linux platform
as an ongoing commitment! The reasons for this are as
follows:
      1)    Corporate developers who still prefer
            Unix are being pressured to switch to
            Windows NT by IT management that wants
            to consolidate costs. Since the Unix
            community failed to provide rivals to
            Excel and Word over the years, most of
            the corporate Unix shops (especially
            on Wall Street where the big money is)
            have both SPARC and Intel hardware
            living side-by-side on the desktops.
            Once NT stabilizes these shops will
            re-engineer their mission critical
            apps to NT in order to unify their
            platforms and reduce costs. The Unix
            developer will be left out in the cold,
            and Sun will find no buyers for Solaris
            or their hardware.      2)    Faced with the switch or die prospect
            Unix developers and administrators are
            pinning their hopes on Java as the future
            of application development and perhaps
            the survival of Unix into the next century.
            However, faced with the rapid pace of change
            in the IT industry in order to keep one's
            skill set up to date (in this case learning
            and developing in Java) one must learn new
            paradigms in one's spare time. I can speak
            for myself, but I am sure this has a lot
            to do with the rapid rise in Linux usage
            reported within corporations, that I have
            Linux installed at home and this is where
            I do my Java training. No developer has time
            to learn on the job.
      3)    Developers choose Linux because we cannot
            afford to constantly shell out money for
            Windows NT or Solaris for PC upgrades, and
            we cannot afford to constantly buy the latest
            and greatest IDE, database, etc. Also, the
            support resources in the Linux community
            (which include news groups, web sites, and
            e-mail) are far superior to any paid support
            that you could be put on hold for when you
            call a vendor's 800 number. Sun must realize
            that the Unix developer (it's life blood)
            keeps current not by spending thousands
            to go to seminars, but by hacking Linux
            into the wee hours of the morning.
      4)    Unfortunately, the current state of Java
            porting projects for Linux are fragmented
            and in disarray as we speak. This has led
            to some savvy Linux developers to post the
            lack of a port to Linux by Sun as a bug
            report on Sun's Bug Parade list! Of which
            many have already expressed their pleas
            for Sun to feel their pain.

      I would greatly appreciate it if you could mention
this bug report in your column in order to make others
aware of this dire situation. I for one despise the NT
development framework (Hungarian notation et al.) and
if forced to work with NT I will purchase a Unix
emulator (such as Open NT or MKS) with my own money
if needs be.
      Here is the URL of the bug report:
http://developer.javasoft.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4097810.html
                                    Please Help Us,
                                          Warren Pfeffer

Please please PLEASE give us a current Linux JDK!
Wouldn't it be nice to see JDK1.2beta3 and HotSpot
early access for Linux at the same time Windoze
and Solaris?

Come on.... Linux NEEDS JWS!!!! Apache and JWS would be the one-two punch in
Web Serving.

I'd pay for a supported copy.

The only problem with the JDK 1.1.5 is:
    IT DOESN´T RUN ANYWHERE IF 
    IT DOESN´T RUN ON LINUX !

Please support the JDK Linux port in an 
official way. You have a lot gain from a
good relationship to the linux community.

How can a development system which claims to be
os and platform independent not support the huge
user base of the linux / i386 community?

I strongly support both getting JDK formally supported on
Linux and JWS supported on Linux.  This would be both profitable
for Sun, and in the spirit of the Sun "Keep technology from dividing
us" poster
in San Francisco... that a lot of people attending JavaOne will see.
In all humility, I'd like to request:  please listen to your customers.
Thanks!

In view of MS Visual 6.0 announcement (see
http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?980311.ehojavawar.htm)
and their front face attempt to break the all platform
java promise, it is imperative that you garner 
support from your biggest allies: us, the Linux
Java developpers. Please make an official Linux JDK
ports.

I too, would prefer to develop Java code on Linux 
instead of Windows and would like to see the 
support from Sun on this (JDK, Java Server, Java 
Workshop, Java Studio...)

Sun ABSOLUTELY must support JDK and JFC 
on Linux as a first tier platform.
This is strategically important for the 
ubiquitous development and deployment 
of JFC applications against Microsoft's 
WFC strategy with J++ 6.0.
Every new app developed with WFC is a new 
app that will not run on Solaris or Linux.

The Linux community has expressed its desire to
persue large projects in Java on Linux, but has
been held back by buggy, late ports.  It would be
a wise move for Java and for Sun if there were
an official JDK for Linux.  Sun, please support
Java on Linux.

This is a no-brainer.
In very little time, Sun could snatch up a huge
army of very talented developers (like me :) who
are just ACHING to develop cool Java software on
Linux.
Soon, Microsoft will be introducing their new
Java development tools that allow you to very
easily call native Windows functions (oh joy).
They have a new set of foundation classes that
they want us to use instead of JFC.  They want
desperately to make Java -only- a language, and
they want software written in that language to
run -only- on Windoze.  Microsoft realizes that
a big part of stealing & assimilating Java is to
lure DEVELOPERS into developing software using
their home-brewed extensions and perversions of
Java.
Sun should give the Linux community a fully
supported JDK.  It should release the Linux
versions at the same time it releases the
Windows and Solaris versions.  We should get
all the goodies too, like the native threads
pack, JDK 1.2, JFC, the Hot Spot compiler, etc.
Legions of developers would become quite enamored
with Sun if they gave us these precious gifts.
Why not foster a formidable community of Java
developers who develop on Linux, where it's
-impossible- to develop MS-Java?
It's a no-brainer.

Please provide a supported version of the JDK on Linux. We are about to begin
developing a venture backed server product and Java is under serious
consideration. Our development platform of choice is Linux. We would be
prepared to pay for an official version of Java on Linux, if need be. Sun, as
this is currently the NUMBER ONE bug in this database of yours, please can you
give us an indication as to whether you are listening! If not, you are better
off taking down this database as it is only serving to communicate your lack of
interest in the Linux community...

Besides the Web Server a JDK port with JIT would be fine.

Everyone else has already said it...please port
JDK to Linux!!

Let me add my voice to the list.  The Linux ports
out there work, but the memory usage is poor and
thread support is very slow.  A proper port is
definately in order.  In order to get Java to be
ubiquitous, it really should have a native port
for the one OS that seems to be found in almost
every part of the enterprise as well as within
the home.

This is SO IMPORTANT.
This is worth a second bug vote from me.

I would add that a true first-tier implementation would have to include beta
releases.
We are currently working on some enterprise-level components, and are using the
JDK 1.2 beta for the additional feature set, specifically the integrated ORB. 
If this was available on Linux, it would help the server portions (in-house
developers are expected to use WindowsNT style hardware, only our customers
(including Sun :) get to purchase real servers) with more real-world test
conditions.
Apart from that, I don't seem to be alone in using Linux workstations for
personal development.  Even the new -5 and -10 machines are a bit pricy in
comparison for personal use.

I work for a bank that has traditionally been (Sun) workstations, 
but is increasingly seeing the encroachment of Windows NT for both
clients and servers.  
I see the JDK on Linux as a "prototype" deployment environment, prior
to production systems being deployed on Sun servers. 
Keeping everything UN*X helps me move my projects between the development 
& production environment.
Help us developers out by porting to Linux.

Sun, come on, do it.  Port the JDK/JRE to Linux.
It's time.
Help the thousands of great Linux programmers to
help Java.  Think how many awesome killer Java
apps that the Linux community could offer us all.
Think how many of them would rabidly defend you
and Java in their corporate environment if only
you would support them and encourage them!
An official Sun JDK/JRE for Linux is the key.
Don't wait.  Do it NOW.  Hire some swift and
experience Linux programmers and get going!
Think how great Sun would look.  Think how great
Java would look.  Think about all of the headlines
and news stories that everyone would get to read
about how Java is spreading like wildfire to all
platforms, this time officially and undeniably.
You'll be glad you did it.  VERY glad.

plz

We need fast and reliable JDK for Linux

I want to chime in with all the requests for a
good, supported JDK & JVM for Linux. Holding
back because it might compete with Solaris is
very shortsighted. Where I work the choices are
coming down to NT or Linux, we're doing Java on
NT, and if it doesn't work as well on Linux,
guess what, NT will stay. Solaris isn't an option
on the desktop; and if NT stays, we might as
well use MS tools ... you see where this heads.
Not only does lack of Linux [BeOS, ...] support
look bad, it's very shortsighted. You're 
inhibiting your own growth. Linux is growing
quickly, with or without Java.
At home I have a win95 partition for one
reason only, to run the Sun JDK on. What's
wrong with this picture?  ;-)

I can't add anything to this desperate list of
complaints below... I feel the same as a Java
developer!
I'll get down on my knees if it helps, and pray for
a new and shiny JDK, written for Us, the Linux users!

Count me in, I agree with just about everything said previously.
In fact, yank micro$ofts java license and give Linus Torvalds one. :]

Thousands of small town ISP's use Linux web
servers.  Then users (and not a few developers)
put their applets on web pages there.
Please help these good-hearted Linux people and
provide up to date JDK/JRE.  
Java marketing will love you because _interoperable_
java applets on web pages are right where windows
users (and their MS developers) can't ignore
them.
- TD <adahlman@nospam@ecity.net

If you'd port JDK to Linux, and make the hotspot 
compiler, available, then I'll buy the JWS. 
Until then, I'm running IIS 4.0.
Bill knows the value of supplying the runtime 
environment (now he controls the mac too). Sun 
needs to be pre-emptive in supplying a great JIT
for the Linux platform. 
You'll also dramatically increase the market for 
your Java based Web Server, not to mention mind-
share with an influential community.

I concur--official JDK support for Linux!

Please make it happen.. 

I realise that Sun does not want to support lots
of platforms on the JDK, that is up to the owner
of said platforms. But I would suggest that Linux
is currently the only other viable UNIX alternative.
The current group of Linux ports are all dire and
if they got together then things could happen.
Supporting Linux would be extra work for Sun and
could lose a few Solaris sales, but there would
be fewer developers working on NT. We need to 
break away from the fact that the fastest free
JVM is Sun's on NT. 

Sun Microsystems Mug - "Open Systems for Open Minds" .... Linux
qualifies as open. Full JDK and Java Web Server availability on Linux with
RPMs. Do you remember what happened to NeWS?

I hate to keep NT on my hard drive just to write java. Have me throw it away,
please.

I agree with all who seek a JDK Linux Port.  I
completly detest Micro$oft (R) Windows and would
prefer not to have to obtain a third party port
which is several revisions behind.

The Mozilla project is gearing up for a major open-source project. There will
be enormous resources poured into the project from the open-source community.
We *must* have access to a clean implementation of java. Please consider making
Linux a standard port or re-evaluating your source licenses. Linux is my home
box. Sun at work. I develope in both locations.

JDK and a JIT compiler for Linux please.

Need the full JDK && JRE for LINUX.
Needed good JIT Compiler.
Really needed, really!!!!

An official linux JDK port that is released at 
the same time as the Solaris and Windows versions 
would definedly accelerate the acceptence of Java
as a portable programming language

Sun, please port JDK to Linux!!!!!!  It makes
business sense.  Most of us can't afford an Ultra
at home, especially college students. Right now,
we only have one choice if we want to do some Java
development at home - Windoze 95/NT.  If we develop applications using Windoze
95/NT, it's very likely we deploy these applications on NT
systems at work.  On the other hand, if we develop under Linux, it's likely we
deploy these applications on Solaris systems at work. So it's
Sun's advantage to port JDK to Linux.

Some additional comments: a Linux JDK should have a native non-X GUI like BISS
AWT, optimized for workstations.  That gets out of the Motif licensing problem
too, and probably the biggest performance hog.
Secondly, there's an alternative that Sun may not have thought of, but that
would accomplish the same thing in the long run and benefit Sun greatly if they
had the courage to do it: pull a Netscape and give away core Solaris, with
source.  You'd still make the money on hardware, support, on Solaris-hosted
software like NFS, servers, custom ports to new hardware, etc., and you'd
increase the developer base by tenfold.
Finally, if Sun does decide to do an official Linux JDK, I'll take a pay cut to
work on it.

What a great idea!
I think release dates would have to be the same for it to work.
On the subject of ports, don't forget the Epoch32 port!
576 votes! way to go!

A solid JDK running under Linux would allow
me to stop running Windows - for ever.

I've added my votes for this.  Sun, you would
really open up some possibilities if all the Java
products were ported to Linux.  The JDK, JIT,
Workshop, Studio, Web Server, et al.  Most of
us are struggling with the 3rd party ports and
trying to be productive and live the write once
life.  It is in a way a measure of the commitment
of Sun that they support Linux officially.

1) The JDK is a product of JavaSoft.
2) Linux users are demanding an official JDK from Sun.
3) The Linux "bug" is the #1 bug in the parade.
If Sun can ignore this then they don't deserve
customers...

Port the Java Workshop too. Right now the debugger doesn't work.
How hard can it be to put the #defines in for Linux? People in the Internet
community have been doing it for years.

Please support Java for Linux, or make Solaris x86
inexpensive. Thank you.

real support please!

Microsoft Active Server Pages does the _same_thing_ and it's  _free_.  On the
other hand, Microsoft has no support.  How about a free, unsupported versionof
JWS?

I believe the main reason Sun has not supported Linux in their products
is b/c they are afraid of hurting their workstation and servers in the
long run.  Period. 
They understand that a supported JDK version for Linux would prevent developers
from moving to NT.
However, right now that reason is not strong enough to make them sacrifice
some revenues, which is a big mistake IMHO.

I would consider Linux JDK port to have more potential impact since such a
significant percentage of Linux users are developers (often working on multiple
platforms)
We can run Linux at home and it runs well and there is a lot of development
activity. For many projects, Linux seems to be where the innovation and new
ideas are coming from. Even non-linux users monitor Linux for the latest and
greatest in Unix. Often, developers for Solaris work on Linux at home. Don't
cripple us.
If you want Java to be omnipresent, then the full Linux JDK port should be as
good as the Sun port and relased in sync. 

Whats required is a properly ported JVM thats faster and optomized for the
Linux kernel.
Linux is a developers dream. It runs CHEAPLY on x86 machines cleanly, and is
well supported. However, HOWTOs to hack JWS are usless, when the core
functionality of the JVM is still substandard compared to other platforms. (
Don't get me wrong, I am EXTREMELY greatful for all the hard work the Linux
community put into the Java port, and BlackDown is an essential part).
Cudo's to Sun if they proceed with an official port. 

Official support and releases for the JWS, JDK, and JRE
would be fabulous.  

I'm doing real work with an unsupported port of 
1.1.5, but I'd feel much better about Java as a
real platform with a real JDK port on my OS of choice,
Redhat Linux 5.  Until it exists, I can't really be 
committed to Java.

Avoiding hysterical additions to this already too
long list, I would like to point out that the
Linux port, apart from being nice for developers
shouldn't require too many man-hours.

Official support for the JDK on Linux would
be good too!  I too use Sun equipment at work
but try to take my work home to my Linux box.

Though I don't use Linux personally, implementing
and supporting Java on Linux seems critical to
fighting against the Evil Empire.

I've gone and traded in one of my more "buggy" bugs
to vote for better JWS and JDK support for linux.  Like
many people I know, I use commercial workstations at work,
but when I go home, i use Linux.  My biggest pet peve
is that the JDKs available for Linux are usually either
a few versions behind or unstable.
Please consider this carefully.

add full jdk support to this wish

Please! 
And look how many of us there are who wants
these things (probably because the Linux users
(programmers) are more devoted than anyone else).

A supported port of Java Server (or the full JDK) 
to Linux would mean a lot to all
poor students learning Java. In fact, we are
using JDK on Linux at U of Calgary. An official
port would be very attractive!

Please make an official port of the JVM to
Linux. My primary development platform is
Linux, both at home and work, and my primary
_deployment_ platform is Solaris.

A fast availability of the a stable latest JDK for
linux would be decisive to impose linux definitively 
as java development platform over here...

Please support JWS and JDK on linux. 

I second. In fact it's very important to have all
of the Java development and server packages
ported to Linux and officially supported.

JDK too!  Blackdown is useless.

I would urge Sun to provide an official JDK for
Linux. My primary development platform is Linux.

Running Linux on a DEC Alpha, I would really like multiple distributions of the
JDK (i.e. for Alpha Linux).

Yes!!!!

At the risk of repeating the same points everyone
else has already made, I want to cast my votes for
official ports of JDK and JWS for Linux.
I work in an environment were Java apps will be
deployed on Solaris, and would rather use Linux
as a test environment over NT.
Please, please listen to your customers and stop
making us wait for 3rd party ports. We want to help
you, but you have to help us.

I would really like to see an official Sun
port to Linux. Enough time has gone by now
and there really are no excuses for not
taking this idea seriously.  After all, Linux
is a serious development environment, and besides
which it would be a really cool gesture.

Do not give M$ a chance. Don't let them take over Java!
So please support the full JDK for Linux. There are 
*many* Linux users out there and and perhaps they can
help you to keep up Java? 

Sun will only miss out on a market where they currently have no competition. 
It could only benefit them and the rest of the Java development community to
(officialy) port their products (JavaStudio, JavaWorkshop, and the JDK) to
Linux.  

Please give us the JDK for linux! 

Please port the FULL JDK to Linux!

I'll buy any officially supported java dev kit
for Linux.  Like many Linux based developers I
*gladly* pay for commercial software - give us
a product, we'll give you cash.

I agree! Please do the port!!!

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Guys, you have no choice... If the Sun JDK is not 
supprted by Sun the Java momentum at home will 
be done at MS stations... and it won't be Java 
anymore. 
<p>
So you loose some sale at the low end... but you 
never sold anything in that market anyway!

Developping mission critical Java programs under
Linux, a real port would be extremely helpful!

The current third-party JDKs for Linux are lacking
stability and robustness. Linux needs and deserves
official JDK support from Sun.

Please Port JDK to linux. I can use solaris 
at work but at home I must run linux.

Porting all of your Java tools (inc JDK) can only 
benefit Sun. You will see a huge proliferation of 
quality Java apps from the Linux community - you 
will also get the added benefit of some pretty
decent testers for your products. And even though
Linuxers are known for their staunch support of 
free SW, a majority will be willing to buy 
products like Workshop. Porting to linux is not 
going to be a money losing proposition for JavaSoft.
And it does look pretty bad if you dont handle 
your members number one bug!!

Add my vote to the many others...  Any and all
Sun support (direct or indirect) is a win for
both Sun and Java developers.

You have my vote for this too!

I'll add my vote to this one.  Come on, either
fully support the Linux platform or give us the
code to do it.  How about releasing a "reference"
set of the source code?

Ok Linux probably compete with SUN.
But, porting a software from Linux to Sun is easier 
than from Windows to Sun. So if you support Linux, 
you could get back software running on Sun :-).

I've orbited around Java and worked with the 
Blackdown port of Java last year and 
found it very lacking in terms of performance.  
At that time, I developped a servlet in Java for a small financial 
institution on Linux, but then decided to go for
C++ since Linux-Java was much too slow to developed 
on for my taste.
And where is the JIT? The IDE?
Now, it's too late for past projects... 
But let me use Java on Linux in the future 
by creating an officially supported JDK/JIT/JWS.  
You could also work with a dist. maker (RedHat+Blackdown?) to 
create a "Java tools CDROM for Linux".  That would \
be nice since Java dev. soft. IS heavy!
And maybe, one day when the world is all Java, 
we can all buy nice Sun workstations!

You are not gaining credibility in claiming to run
everywhere, whereas the only platforms you support
are the one you absolutely must (Windows) and your
own (Solaris).
Perl (yuk!) is more "everywhere" than java.
Get your act together and sack the ignorants from
your team.
Happy Hacking!

I've got several Sparc 5s at work. But a linux-based JDK/JDE from Sun would be
REALLY useful for R&D.

Supply the Linux community with a decent JDK!

Please give the Linux porting guys all the help
they need to come up with a good and fast JVM
for Linux.  With the current state of things, we
have to advise our customers to run under Windows (ugh!)

I good port of the JRE and/or JDK as well!!!

Add my vote to the list.
Sun-supported JDK/JRE for linux

Please port JDK/JRE to Linux.

PLEASE! support Linux!!!!!!!!

The problem is not JWS on Linux.
The problem is Java on Linux.
The JDK ports I have tried are buggy and slow.

Our company basically has a choice:  Deploy
web servers on Linux, or not at all.
The nutshell is that Linux is a more solid
OS platform than anything else on PC hardware,
and non-PC hardware is too expensive (in
terms of sticker price) and risky (in terms of
interoperability, outsourced service and support,
and vendor-neutrality) to merit consideration.
We do open systems development.  We like Java
because it's based on open standards and because
it gives us things that other open solutions
(such as C++, or the various Perl/CGI combinations)
don't.  We like PC's because open standards 
follow along a year or two behind the technology.
For an OS, Linux is just about as open as it gets.

If Sun supports Linux in any way, shape or form,
it will only serve to further legitimize the 
biggest commercial threat to Solaris x86.
As long as Sun remains committed to Solaris x86,
you are unlikely to see any official Sun support
for Linux.

Please port the JDK to Linux.

Linux is a platform that's gaining rapid popularity all over the world... An
official JDK for Linux would be great!  Isn't Java supposed to be universal and
international?

Linux needs a supported, high-performance port of the VM.
Give away the JIT, sell the hotspot version.

It would be great to have a supported version of the
JDK for Linux.  I'd also like to see supported versions
of some of the IDEs for Linux.

Please port the JDK and JWS to Linux.  This is imperative in the face of
Microsoft's actions.

Pretty please with sugar on top port entire JDK 
to Linux with full international support

What's the problem? I'm running JavaServer on Linux right now...

Please actively support Linux. A good and fast
implementation on Linux will be a big boost to 
*PURE* java. 
We really to have the JDK and a good JIT for Linux
being actively supported by SUN.

I think that Sun must port the whole JDK for the free unix system Linux.
In my opinion there a advantages for the Linux community and for SUN
Microsystems.
I am one of twenty java software developer. All our development computer are
equiped with windows nt 4.0 :-((.
I think there are the following reasons for this circumstance:
1) personal computer (intel) are cheaper than unix workstations
2) the only usable port from the jdk for intel pc's is the win32 port from sun

I think the result of this reasons in near future will be:
1) computer engineers get familiar with the windows platform
2) computer engineers lose their experience with the unix platform

And this results in the following disadvantages for SUN Microsystems:
Instead of buying professional Unix Servers (e.g. from SUN Microsystems) the
companies buy more and more windows nt server and this is no vision!!!

Therefore it is a must that Sun makes available a high quality jdk port for a
low cost unix system like Linux.
Regards
Michael

There's not much to add to the previous letters.
I struggle with similar things at my job (an
Eastern Coast university), where they are
installing Windows NTs as servers :o) because
of costs and they reject any UNIX solution
because "they're way too expensive".  The
only reason for rejecting Linux is that our Java
development "may not continue on unsupported, 
hack (!) software".  Enough said.

Yes, please support JDK for Linux and of course the server as well

JDK must be ported to Linux

I'm considering switching to Linux from Win95 and a official port would make
the Linux OS an extremely attractive alternative.

A Sun JDK for Linux would definitely be an asset to Linux developers.  Also,
since the Linux community is growing by leaps and bounds, I would also think
that it would be to Sun's advantage to encourage more Linux developers to write
java code by providing a complete, robust, and reliable set of Java tools (JRE,
JDK, JIT).

JDK for Linux would be great!  Linux is growing
 more and more.  Support form Sun with a JDK for
Linux would help many developers as myself.
Another good idea would be to port the Java Workshop.
What happened to the "Write once, Run Anywhere".
Java Workshop is a GREAT application, and making
it cross platform would even benefit Sun.

The reason that sun will not support a production grade JDK on Linix is
painfully obvious, there is no need to buy Sloaris Sparc or Solaris x86.  The
UNIX Puritsts would have an option rather than the SUN implementation.  At the
very lease SUN wants one of the LINUX houses to pony up the licensing cash to
fill SUNs coffers.

consider giving access to the JCK to to the people
who have ported the jdk. that way the code quality
would be much improved.

This is not really a bug, and many comments have nothing to do here.

I prefer Unix to Windows and I dont
like Microsoft. But...
When buying PC, Windows is "default" OS.
I would like to be able to get PC with
installed Solaris on it.
But, no, its not the case. On other hand
we see Windows already installed on
every PC we are buying. Also, we see
final version of JDK for Windows,
but not for Linux or MacOS. 
Also we see Sun giving source code 
for JDK to Microsoft.
Result - Microsoft is developing WFC
for Java, and Apple will support them.
Why not? They have source code and most
of the developers are already using Windows 
for Java development.
I think Sun wants to lose the rest of 
Java developers who are using Linux.
And, where is that "JavaOS" ?
Does it exists? And what is Java Station?
Suns marketing can be much better.
Summary:
Sun is getting what it deserves.

Where do you want to go today?
Do you want to support your own baby - Java?
JAVA SUPPORT MEANS LINUX SUPPORT!!!
Please include Linux to the list of your preferred
platforms!

Sun should make Linux a full reference platform
on par with Windows. If not then I can always 
use MS-Java/DCOM and still support 90% of the
desktops in corporate America. Don't be foolish...

If it runs just fine, as the "Evaluation" contends,
then why is this bug voted number one by the
developers themselves?  Yes, we are all aware of
the fantastic efforts of Blackdown in the Java-Linux
project, it works quite well.  However, support from
Sun would be a real boost.  A lot of developers have
been itching to use the new Java 1.2 features, and
without support from Sun, its very slow in coming.
It would not be difficult at all to make a couple
archives available for x86 Linux, statically linked.
Sun wouldn't even have to "officially" support them,
the developers would be very happy even with a simple
"unsupported" compile in a directory in Javasoft's
FTP somewhere.  Is this possible?

Also, the up-to-date Linux JDK will be just great.
Current tendency is to close people on Intel/PC,
which means: if you want to run something other
than Windows, you have to pay for it yourself,
company's not gonna buy it. Which leaves: Linux.
So, in last 20 months I'm doing all my Java
development (both server and client side) on
Linux, which is always a couple of releases
behind. I don't just 'think' or 'hope' that I'm
not the only one, I just see it here.
Just my $0.20

I agree. Even though I have access to powerful
Ultrasparc stations and Pentium-II NT stations,
I develop under Linux. I'm agree a *supported* 
JDK from Sun is a must. 

Please support JDK for Linux !

The project I'm working on is developed in entirely
in Java. Among other things we're programming a
whiteboard. The major development work is done on
Linux, but to use the new Java2D features we'll
have to switch to Windows (yuck!).
Oh please support Linux. 

Lets see Sun proof they aren't out to destroy all the unix platforms except
solaris.  If Java is going to be nothing more than a tool for McNealy's holy
war against Microsoft, what good is it.  We need it for LINUX!

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The JDK on Linux would really be a nice low cost solution.  I would then be
able to guide my customers to stable environment.  As you know it is very
difficult to break the MS Windows paradigm (i.e. That blue screen comes up
every once in awhile just turn your PC off).  If Solaris 2.5 did this I would
assume that is was a configuration problem on my part, and I would feel
confident in the fact at a simple administrative task would fix the problem.

Please support JDK for Linux.

Please, support JDK1.2 and HotSpot on Linux.  Thank you!

Pretty Please?

Java on Linux -- YES PLEASE

I'm just an developer by hobby but I'm poor and can't afford much more than
Linux PLEASE PORT!!!!!

Java for Linux would help the Java camp A LOT!!!

Just do it !

Please put out an official jdk port for Linux.
Linux users are often Java users, and a very
solid base of advocates for the Java language.

We need JDK on LINUX !!!!

Please support a *FULL* port of the JDK to Linux. 
I am a full time Java developer and need access to
the latest and greatest Java stuff but don't have
the $$$ to buy Solaris so I am FORCED to use Win32
and support Bill Gates. Give me some help !!! I 
understand that your resource are thinly spread,
but if you could just help someone else like
www.hungry.com or www.kaffee.org to put out a
timely and stable JDK, I would really appreciate
it.
Thanks, your friend for life ....
Andrew Wilcox
awilcox@acm.org
PS -- 961 votes indicates to me that I am not 
alone in this !!!!!

Full JDK and Servelet.

We poor developers prefer the economic, powerful Linux to Windows. But the JDK
port on Linux is fine, not fine enough. It will be a great help, if we can have
an official support for JDK port on Linux.

It's ironic, really: If one accepts the 
proposition that Java and Win32 are in 
competition of some sort (and believe me, even 
if Sun doesn't accept it, Microsoft _does_), it 
seems obvious that all available inroads into 
the Intel architecture should be exploited to 
increase Java's "marketshare" while decreasing 
that of Win32. A Win32 port is essential, of 
course, and JavaPC is a smart idea as well...
but as SolarisX86 is largely held 
to be a practical joke of some kind
among serious developers (sad but true, guys), 
a Linux port is simply _the_ most obvious move
to make. I doubt a non-hacker would really get
the magnitude of the importance of this decision,
but let me try to paint a picture for you:
It would put stable, reliable Java into the hands
of what is estimated to be a _millions_ strong 
community of people who (a) hate Microsoft and 
(b) are some of the most skillful and intelligent
computer geeks in the world. You do the math. 
Believe me, Microsoft already has.

I found Linux is more usable for my development
even the way it is now. Giving a _support_ to
this would make it very competitive - and mostly
against Windows, not Solaris. 

It's obvious, most Java developers/programmers would rather see a JDK port on
Linux than on Windows 95

It's useless without Linux port

Isn't anyone reading this rfe?  It's for the JWS, 
_NOT_ the JDK!

Please support a Linux JDK port.

I know the request says Java Server but I am sure
everyone really wants the full JDK ported to Linux.

Obviously not.  :-))))

I agree with kw

I would love to see an *official* Linux version of the
JDK. I would even *pay* for it! Is it "Write once, 
run anywehre!" or is it "Write once, run on some 
supported platforms!"?

If Java is to grow to fruition it must be the development platform of choice
for all the secenarios Sun mentions. The huge programming community in support
of Linux would immediately accept and advance Java if they knew a stable,
fully-featured base was available. Who better than Sun to provide the
foundation?

With all that, what MS has done to
JAVA(tm) in mind ... shouldn´t there
be a JDK for a better (and slightly
less expensive) x86 OS ??

Please, I need a JDK for Alpha Linux....  The
alternative is having to use Windoze....

Since this turned into a request for the JDK
instead of JWS, I'll add my 2 cents:
In addition to an officially support port, I'd
like to see Linux elevated to the same status
(or timetable) as the Solaris and Win32 releases.
I assume you release Win32 versions right away
for market share reasons.  I think you would be 
suprised at the number of Linux downloads you get.
Like many of the developers I am forced to use NT
at work (and home) because I need access to the
latest toolkits (1.1.6, 1.2b3, ect).  Giving us 
the ability to develop in Java under a stable,
powerful OS, will be of great benefit to the Java
developer community!
Please give this some consideration.

Please sponsor a full port of JDK to Linux, this would allow many people to
work at home, where buying a Ultra-SPARC is much too expensive.

Most Definitely! Linux 4 Eva

Linux is gaining broad acceptance among the PC owners throughout the world.
Porting the full JDK (with Swing, Server, etc.) to Linux would benefit to both
Java and Linux.

Let's start with an official port for JDK and Swing. There are alot more Linux
machines out there than you could imagine.

Please port JDK to Linux

First, lending my voice. Please port JRE to Linux, presumably everything else
(short of native code in Java3D etc.) is portable.
Second, a heads up: Netscape has identified Linux as important, so important in
fact that it is (or is about to be) a first tier platform for some/all of its
server products. We are no longer talking about cheap software running on the
hardware of people who dream about a better world, this is about deploying
mission-critical enterprise services on Linux.
Now, Sun's position is a little different to Netscape's, in particular, Sun is
a UNIX vendor and making a public act which recognises Linux's importance (even
to a particular group of developers) as being in the same league as Solaris's
importance might represent an image problem for Sun's marketing people, but the
entire Java phenomenon (e.g. the operation of JDC for non-paying customers!)
represents a paradigm shift.
Please, make life a little easier for those who are developing Java on Linux.

I already made the switch from Unix to NT
specifically because of Suns lack of support
for Java on Linux. Now I am comfortable, I am unlikely to ever purchase Sun
hardware again.

Alternatively, release a cheap version of Intel Solaris for developers.
However, this would not obviate the need for a Linux Java port for those of us
who wish to use Linux in a server capacity.

Please chnage the title to reflect
consensus : People want Linux to
be as supported as Win32 or Solaris
(JDK, JavaWorkShop, ...)
Then I'll vote :-)

Please port the JDK to Linux. We will stay away from the monopol Microsoft
Thanks,
Wolfgang Brungert

If you can tell me where to get a Sun Ultra-2
and Solaris, for under 1500, I'll
gladly do it, but until then, we need Linux
support.

Please!

Dear Mr Sun,
I use Solaris at work and Linux at home.  Like most software engineers,
I can not afford to keep up with technology advances at my workplace. 
So I end up trying to run the lastest Java marvels on Linux's JDK.  
This is sometimes a frustrating experience, which I would like to 
spare on my weekends !
So what do you advice me ?
Switch to Windows ?

Please do an official Port of the JDK for Linux!

If you release a JDK for Linux (an RPM package perhaps?), you run the risk of
making Microsoft VERY unhappy. All those developers too cheap to spring for
Sparc/Solaris forced to work under Windows 9x.

I'm doing Java development on Solaris at work.
Without the efforts of some Good Guys out of the
amazing Linux community (many thanks to Randy 
Chapman, Steve Byrne, Sergey Nikitin, namely),
I would have been forced to use MS Windows for
my "homework". Unfortunately, as the JDK is very
much a moving target, those private porting 
efforts are doomed to stay behind several steps.
Actually, I'm unable to run our application on 
the current port of JDK 1.1.5 for Linux, and I'm
wasting time seeking for workarounds.
We want people to be able to run our application
on Linux. We want to be able to develop on Linux.
So what we need is an officially supported JDK
for Linux.
By the way, I would expect the Linux community
with its profound knowledge of its operating
system to be of valuable help in tracking down
bugs in the official JDK releases, and even in
suggesting enhancements for pushing Java into the
future.

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Please Support JDK for Linux.
It is a must!
Which private person has the money
to buy WindowsNT?

This is the Bug Parade, not the Wish Parade!
What is this requirement doing here? Now all "real" bugs are shiftet
one rank down. 
This is not the intention of the bug Parade.

Hi.
I thought there is a
Linux implementation of JDK.
I have even downloded jdk1.1.3.
Hmmm.... strange, or I just don't 
get the idea..

Please do an official port of jdk and jws,
it shoudn't be harder than that ms-port.
And we could programm in java rather than
trying to find workarounds for different 
implementations of the jvm for different os.
is this meant by os independent ?
PLEASE do a port.

So you support Microsoft. Why not Linux ???

If you are interested in Market share, then port jdk/BDK/Java Studio/Java
Workshop to Linux.  If development occurs on Linux, you developers will not be
tempted to use Windows native extensions.  Your lack of response to Java/Linux
developers thus far makes me wonder about the competence of your management. 
Maybe Microsoft really does have a better management team.  Sad but appears to
be true.

The more people using and developing on UNIX,
the stronger Solaris looks. Supporting the JDK
on Linux increases the pie, and everyone's piece
gets bigger.

Linux is the only true alliance for SUN.
I think this port would/should be part
of a gentleman-agreement .

Please support Linix, jws,jdk,...
Thanks,
Dennis

I develop on Solaris & other UNICES at work. At home I use Debian GNU/Linux
with an unofficial JDK port.
If Sun knows what's good for them, they will provide myself and others like me
with the tools we need to write the programs to make UNIX (including Solaris
and Linux) win against Microsoft.

It's not like anyone is controlling development on
the LINUX platform, the source is free.  It's 
closer to Solaris then most UNIX's and definitely
closer than Win95/NT and SUN supports that 
platform!  Supporting new releases of JDK and 
other SDK's on Linux only makes sense for Sun.

I am forced to work with all sorts of 
platforms including Windoze, but even my 
clients have asked about Java and Linux.
Please make my job easier, make a port to Linux.
You will have more converts than you could imagine.
A special thanks to all those people
who are doing independent java ports.  Your work 
is appreciated!!

I second this motion...

I have to load the Java DLL at runtime, and
invoke a JVM afterwards. Of 7 Linux JDK ports
under 4 operating systems (Debian 1.3.1,
RH 4.2, RH 5.0 and custom), only one actually
manages the test program.
ISP's are using Linux a lot. If you want server
side Java in widespread use, release an official
Linux port of JDK and JRE, and support both.
Linux is also in widespread use at universities,
for private phone and ISDN dialup, and in small
company R&D departments and by web content
providers. If you want client side support of Java
in these environments, provide an official JDK and
JRE port, and support it.

Comment one: evaluations that are anonymous
and do not even provide an ID to refer to
invite "responsbility diffusion".
Comment two: It does not run just fine. It
does run, depending on what you need, what
system you are using, and which of the
(currently 7) JDK 1.1.x ports you are using.
Support of Linux JDK is not properly evaluated
or adressed by "there's even a HOWTO".

A solid implementation on LINUX would go a long
toward cementing Java in the web server market.
It would also give Sun access to a huge,
technically well educated debugging community.

Everybody knows that individual Linux ports of 
JDK ain't things a serious developer can count
on.
There are attempts to make a decent portable
Java VM -- Kaffe and Japhar. None of them can
satisfy our needs. Japhar is on the very early
stage of development and Kaffe doesn't have AWT
still. 
It is just impossible to ignore Linux as a
development platform nowadays. It is used
around the world by people at home, by students, 
and in many companies which can't afford having 
a Sun workstation. How can Sun just close their
eyes on that? Linux isn't a competing environment,
it's a path to making UNIX popular. And good
Java implementation can help a big deal here.
It could be just nice to incorporate with Kaffe
team, for they already made a very reliable and
fast implementation of JIT.

please please please.....
PLEASE support Java on Linux....there should not HAVE
to be 3rd party ports for the java platform.

I would like 'anywhere' to mean something else
than 'windows and solaris'.
More than that, there are many good programmers 
working on Linux, and they could be of much help :-)

Perhaps this request should be made a bit more
general.  Maybe it is time for Sun to port the
JDK to some of the other platforms themselves.
No matter what Sun decides to do, they will always
have me as a customer. :)

Just last week, I met a young developer who was able to convince his company to
convert from Windows NT to Solaris by prototyping it first on Linux.
He wanted to get started on Java and I helped him select some Java books to do
so as I am an avid Java supporter.
I don't use Linux currently and am an Enterprise Developer.  
I do believe that support of Linux will:
    - result in a large sale of Java Workshop tools as well as the Java Server.
    - help developers in their fight for your Java environment in their
workplace.
    - help train many additional Java programmers
    - and finally but not least, I do believe that UNIX desktop applications
could very well grow  signifiantly from this group (I was very impressed with
the students from Harvard had done with the Swing app.
      I truly believe that this group of developers that could ADD
significantly.
These are observations from a greybeard of the industry.
I will not plead for this, but I will recommend it.           
    -    

Please support Java on Linux fully (JDK, JRE, Swing).
What does Sun see as its core business? Large scale, highly integrated, server
solutions and Java technologies such as net PCs and Java appliances, it
appears. Sun stands to gain most by making Java a credible and portable
application environment, or it will be driven out of business by Microsoft like
every other system vendor.
Solaris for x86 is surely a sideline. Yes, supporting Java on Linux would hurt
Solaris x86, but people would only buy Solaris x86 for institutional reasons
anyway. The added support for Java as an application environment is of far
greater value to Sun.
Even Solaris for SPARC is mainly a server API, not an application API. Sun
promotes Java as a server API in many areas, relegating Solaris to a
"kernel" role. This makes commercial sense as Sun is still very much
a hardware company. In the end it wants to sell SPARC boxes.
In order for Java to win as an application (and general) API it must run as
seamlessly as native executables on the vast majority of current systems. Only
then will Java replace Windows as the platform of choice when writing any new
applications. Sun has far more to gain if Java wins, by selling Java-based
computers and technologies, than it may lose in sales of Solaris.
Microsoft is not going to make Java run native under Windows, even though
technicnically it's very easy for them. They want Java to be just a language,
not a delivery platform, and they will claim that the way to run Java under
Windows is to compile native .EXE or use other proprietary means.
So please, let us have a fully supported JDK, JRE, and supporting technologies
such as Swing for Linux. Surely the eventual success of Java is worth the
effort.

I actually avoided jws for a long time since there
was no Linux version. My company typically develops
 Unix apps on cheaper workstations (i386 Linux) and 
then transfers to production environments on Sun and 
SGI hardware.
Without jws availability on Linux, the only 
write once, run anywhere solution seems to
be Apache with Perl CGI (or fast cgi etc).
The 'you can hack up this makefile and it might
work on other unices' is actually laughable.
Perl (free) and apache (free) usually requires 
these steps:
./configure
make
make install
Presto magico!
So please, provide a native port of your systems
(JDK/JWS/Beans) to other platforms. 
In addition, make a libjsafe! It's hardly fair
to let people download jws with the expectation
of a fully functional web server, only to find
that Sun makes no provision for libjsafe.so
on most platforms. When I enquired about an
SGI version in the fall, I was told that
I could license the code from RSA and write my
own. Excuse me?

I am yet another developer who uses Solaris by day
at work, but prefers to use Linux at home and on
his laptop.  "Official" Sun support of JDK/JWS on
Linux would make my development life easier.  I
would have less reliance on Win95 and NT, and I
would be less likely to spec NT boxes for a client
engagement since my "prime productivity"
development environment would be Unix based.

Amen.

1) Sun, please least re-evaluate this one, you're starting to look outright
silly.  It's been over two months since you commented on it, and it has over a
thousand votes (TWICE what the #2 problem has)!  If you ask for people's
opinion and then ignore them, they get miffed.
2) Linux is to Solaris what Windows 95 is to Windows NT.  You use the little
cheap one at home, and deploy your mission critical apps on the big expensive
one at work.  Sun, you don't SELL a little cheap version of unix for use at
home!  (Or by students, or developers who don't use Unix but are thinking of
learning, like me...)  You're not competing with it, it's helping you.  Deal
with it.
3) If nobody's reading the comments on this bug anymore, if it's already been
evaluated and put in the "ignore" pile, we're probably going to
re-submit it eventually.  (Each of us.  More than once.  See point #1.)

I really would like to use JDK,JWS and Swing
on LINUX but I've been forced to use WIN95 
versions instead. 
We are developing and deploying our java apps 
in Solaris at the office but I've been developing
at home using WIN95. I would like to be able to
develop in more homogenous environments if I could
and would *love* an official port of Java from Sun
running on Linux. I have a sneaking suspicion that
you won't have problems looking for Sun/Javasoft
engineers willing to have a crack at this.

If Linux's market share is so low and as bad as you
say. I guess that explains why Corel and Netscape are 
porting a significant portion of their application
to it. 
Come on. I don't want to start a big Linux war, but just
update your vision a little bit.

This is hilarious. 
a) This is not a bug, this is an enhancement.
b) The marketshare of Linux is so low as to be
laughable. One wonders why Sun would waste valuable
time and resources on a negative return project,
while they could be better spent on actually fixing
bugs.
c) Is this the bug parade or the whine parade (read
the last few messages.) And how many of thse "votes"
are real? One wonders.
Personal opinion:  I have yet to see a developer
voluntarily code on Linux when ANY other alternatives
are available.  WinNT, 95, Solaris, HP-UX, even
DOS, are preferred over Linux.  Where the heck
have people been? "Tool of choice" indeed, more
like dead old dinosaur.
Suggestion: Ditch this RFE, and get a real
bug into the top 25.

Please support a Linux JDK port

Pure Java version of Java server would be nice

Yes, yes! Please support an official JDK on Linux!

There is now a feature request dedicated in a full JDK / JRE port to Linux
(4137729). Since this feature request is *technically* for JWS support of Linux,
 anyone who is interested in a full Linux port (it looks like there are a lot)
might want to consider casting bug votes for the other RFE. Hopefully, this
will get the attention of *someone* at Sun (I get the felling they are ignoring
this RFE ;) )

Developers: Support a full port of the JDK to Linux by voting for RFE 4137729

Absolutely.  Write once run anywhere is a farce
without full Linux support!

What I really would like is the Java Web Server 
with JSP and then of course a JIT compiler.
All for Linux and I dont mind to pay for that
blooddy web server. I just want it.

The lack of native applications (compared do the windows platform).
Could be filled with java programs if  java was available for linux.

I develop on Suns at work and I use Linux at home.
It would be great if the same version of the JDK
was available for both platforms.

Support JDK for Linux!

Don't forget to go <A
HREF="http://developer.javasoft.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4137729.html">vote</A>
to get the full JDK and JRE ported to Linux as well!

Yes Linux needs to be a supported JDK platform

Linux is an extremely viable platform for the home market. Supporting it can
only help you. Give us the JDK on it.

A Linux port of the JDK and server would go 
a long way toward making Linux an even more 
viable Windows alternative.  This is a win-win 
for Sun as well as developers, because anything 
that supports a Windows alternative in turn 
promotes the whole concept of platform-neutrality, 
which is what Java is all about.  Do it, Sun. 

A Linux port of the JDK and server would go 
a long way toward making Linux an even more 
viable Windows alternative.  This is a win-win 
for Sun because anything that supports a Windows 
alternative in turn promotes the whole concept 
of platform-neutrality, which is what Java is 
all about.  Do it, Sun. 

Looks like the topic derived from Java Server to JDK, JRE, JFC and Swing.
However: PLEASE support officially Java on linux.
The kind of people who use Java and those who use Linux have something in
common...

Please help the Open Source community tighten
the screws on Microsoft by supporting Linux
ports of JWS (and JDK).

Ahh, yes, we need an official JDK for Linux, 
so that when 1.2 is released I can get it ~the
same time Windows/Solaris gets its JDK!

Ahh, yes, we need an official JDK for Linux, 
so that when 1.2 is released I can get it ~the
same time Windows/Solaris gets its JDK!

This seems to have gone off topic, however, if
somebody is counting. I would like to add my name
to the list of requests for an official jdk for
linux. As a developer for a start up business our
resources are limited. I currently use a single
PC which runs one of four operating systems. It
is very cumbersome to reboot into Windows NT
just to fix a few bugs discovered in an applet or
application while under linux.

Linux represents an opportunity for Sun Microsystems to further its roll in
breaking down proprietary closed solutions.  A Sun supported full JDK and JVM
or Linux is critical to further the Network centric computing model among
professional SOHO, small and medium businesses that have embraced Microsoft
proprietary OS and application products.  It is also important to explain the
opportunity that Solaris 2.6 and Linux offer to the PC reseller community.

Sun, you can't argue with 7 million seats...
;-)

for write once run every where your must support 
more than 2 platforms (sun and win32) one of the 
fastest growing OSes (linux) would make sense for
 a jdk port

please not only Java server but also full JDK,
linux folks need it bad,
thanks

Supporting Linux ports of the JDK (Java Development
Kit) and other Java-related products directly can
only be a win-win situation.  Win for Sun as another
platform is directly supported, thus Java becoming 
more widespread.  A win for Java developers that use
Linux as they have native versions as soon as 
new versions of the products are released.
So what's to lose? (Except users of the windows port <grin>)

I'm not a Linux user. I'm a Mac user. I'm using one of my votes to vote for a
JDK on Linux because I honestly believe that is important and would benefit
everybody in the long run :)

I work for the biggest ISP in Belgium where
Solaris and Linux run peacefully together. We want
to replace our web interfaces to Java, but this will
not be possible unless there's full support of
Java for the Linux Platform, since all techos
use it at home and mostly as a workstation/developer
station on a daily basis.
Thx in advance for considering your options ;)
(porting the JDK from Solaris shouldn't be as
hard...)

I second the request for an official Sun-port of Java to Linux.  Since it is
important to
have as many use Java as possible to have the broadest user base and general
acceptance of Java
in the end-user community, it is vital to have a rock-solid implementation. 
Other
operating systems have a company backing it up, and doing the port.  
Even though Linux is a competitive Unix for Solaris x86 I believe that the
target for Sun should be as large a user base as
possible and this would be a very efficient way of reaching the lower end of
the Unix
market (which I believe that Solaris does not cover).
Regards,
(oh, and I think the textbox for replies should be larger :-)

Please port JWS to Linux.  Enough said.  

"Write Once, Run Anywhere"
Shouldn't this include Linux?

Please support Linux with the JDK with *at least*
the same level of support as Windows!!!  Join
Netscape in leading the world to a better way.

You simply must port the JDK to Linux.  Gotta, gotta, gotta!

I agree with everyone that it would be great if Sun supported Linux with a
official jdk

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Another vote for the Linux port.
Help make it write once, run ANYWHERE :)

Our business is banking on Java in the Educational
field.  Our main development is currently NT, but
there is a great need for full JDK support on Linux
for which I currently dual boot for testing purposes.
(We don't have the captial to invest in a Solaris
Box to test unix compatibility)
Full JDK Port support on Linux would give Java
(and Java on Unix) a huge boost, as the Linux and
the Open Software movement gain momentum as home
and work place office's start investing in the
Linux platform as a viable alternative.

Thank to the skills and experience that we have
had with using Linux here at work, we where able 
to convince our boss that we had the knowledge 
needed to use a Unix server. That is why our new
internet server solution is based on Solaris and not
WinNT which was our bosses first choice. By supporting
Linux Sun will support itself.

Please port the official JDK to Linux (RedHat distribution if you need a start)

Linux is gaining amazing popularity, and this
is not just among "hackers"/individuals that Sun 
doesn't seem to care about, infact Corel's NC is 
going to mainly run on it (Linux) and Java...
Why not support this growing group of 
companies/developers?

Linux is one of the fastest-growing operating
systems for the x86 platform, and is increasingly
used as an alternative to NT. If Sun is sincere
about promoting open standards and preventing
Microsoft from strengthening their stranglehold
on the industry, they will officially support
the JDK on Linux. Linux is not a competitor to
Solaris -- rather it provides customers with
an alternative to NT, and allows them to test
Unix with little risk. Bringing customers
to Unix can only be a positive thing for Sun.
Please support the JDK on Linux!

At Tri-Century we've already made the move to
Linux on our PCs.  This includes Java...
But jdk support (through the linux community) lags
a bit...  Also, it would be nice to be able to
debug with JWS (I'm evaluating it right now... 
with the Linux patch...)  The Linux community 
needs full Sun support now... With Corel WP 8 
suite coming out for under $100 soon, commercial 
Red Hat support, Netscape and other things which 
run on Linux it would be a shame for Javasoft to 
miss the boat... And who do you think is more 
probable to migrate (i.e. port code) to the 
UltraSparc?  A Linux workstation based programming
shop or a Windows 95/NT one?
Sincerely,
/matt	(Matt Herres, President/CEO Tri-Century Resource Group, Inc.)

I think this would be a good thing for the Java 
community. Please support Linux.

while(true) {
	System.out.println("Please port the full, latest, greatest JDK to Linux
and support it.");
}

I vote for a Linux port.

Existing Linux port of JDK is below usable for
anything serious, and I have strong suspicions
that Linux libc low tolerance to
pointers/allocation problems has something to
do with that, so fixing it most likely will fix
other troubles.

please port JDK for linux.

Please support the full JDK under Linux!

Make Linux a highpriority os.
We run almost everything on Linux and need
the Java to be up to date

Port EVERYTHING to linux!

Please provide a supported port of the JDK on Linux,
as well as other Java-related software (such as the
Java Server).
Warren E. Downs, Systems Engineer

Linux is by far a much better platform to code
on than windows. Plus it makes it easier for
students to learn it at home then try it at work
on a UNIX platform like solaris etc.

Please, don't forget that we are on your side Sun.  We run Linux because we
cannot afford an UltraSparc at home.  Porting the JDK to Linux means one more
reason to NOT use M$ products!

Not only JWS but JDK. 
For all platforms, too, because with glibc it
shouldn't take much more than just a recompile.

Port it! Port it! Port it! Port it!

Just do it.

Please port all java software to linux

Please support an offical JDK port for Linux.
Thanks

PLEASE port the entire JDK to Linux.  There are third-party ports available,
but an official version from Sun would be much more useful.  It would also help
in the blows against M$.

A Sun-supported Linux JDK Port would be a win-win
situation for both parties here.  We get current
tools to work with and you get even more support
for Java.  

Java is an extremely attractive option to many
developers working under Linux.  But the availability
of a _supported_ JDK release, with new versions
(including betas) available quickly would be a 
huge boost.
Is maintaining a Linux port likely to represent
that much work compared to, e.g., the MacOS
port?

To give support in a concrete way to the Linux
phenomenon can help Linux and Sun. The precedent
was set by Sun when it supported Tcl/Tk. Make 
everyone happy by producing the full works.

Please officially support a Linux JDK port.

Java and Linux are both key technologies in our
mutual quest to dislodge the Microsoft nightmare.
Please, let's work together.  Supporting Linux as
a first tier platform for JDK is a big win for
everyone.

Until Sun wakes up and does a proper port, I will not be using the java
language for anything.
Sun has to wonder how many other developers are out there with the same
attitude.

Please port JDK1.1 or JRE1.1 to Linux!

Please fully support all relevent Sun Java
products and development tools under Linux.
A very large percentage of current software
development is happening today under Linux.
As long as Linux is not fully supported by Sun,
Sun is closing off access to Java to this
vital development community. It make no sense to
me that Sun would want to cripple Java in this
way.

 Having a full JDK would make it much easier to keep up with the latest Java
developments.  Currently the Linux JDK is always playing catch up.

In the field of IT, linux/apache is very widespread.
Don't let the linux developpers out of the race !
Linux boxen are cheap development platforms

I use Solaris at work and Linux at home.
If I'm going to do serious Java development, some
of it is going to have to be done on my own time, which
means *on my Linux box*.  An officially supported
port of the JDK to Linux just makes sense; I'm not
going to use Windows just so I can have a
Sun-supported JDK!  At home it's Linux or nothing
for me.  Sun, please support the JDK on Linux!

Many people are using Apache on Linux as 
a webserver platform. The absence of a proper 
JDK port is harming it's viability, and for many
of us, there are people only too willing to
suggest switching to Microsoft 'solutions'. This
behaviour can only harm Sun in the long run, the
prevalence of Microsoft in the web market could
lead to the prevalence of Microsoft Java, which
would be the death of Sun's vision for Java as
a cross-platform tool.

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Please port the full JDK to Linux.

We use Linux as servers for a variety of things (DNS, DHCP, Database,
file/print services, etc..) throughout our organization.  It is a serious
platform and it is time that it should be taken seriously by Companies such as
Sun.  Please support and keep the java development kits and tools up to date
for Linux.

As an employee for an official Microsoft Solutions Provider, I can tell you
that I am desperately looking for ways to support the Java development effort
and to encourage my boss to  take a non-MS stance occasionally. Because I am
farmilar with Linux and due to the low cost, I am able to provide a development
enviroment with JDK at its core. If I could also drop the fact that Official
support for Linux was available, I might be able to 'convert' him. Anyway,
thanks and keep up the good work.

As an employee for an official Microsoft Solutions Provider, I can tell you
that I am desperately looking for ways to support the Java development effort
and to encourage my boss to  take a non-MS stance occasionally. Because I am
farmilar with Linux and due to the low cost, I am able to provide a development
enviroment with JDK at its core. If I could also drop the fact that Official
support for Linux was available, I might be able to 'convert' him. Anyway,
thanks and keep up the good work.

Please support Linux JDK!

The length of time it took to load all the comments (actually, most of them, my
ISP cut me off before I finished) gives some indication of the necessity of a
port of the JDK to Linux...

It would be nice to have an official port.  The
entry level CS courses at my University are Java
programming.  We use linux as our development machines.

Porting to the Linux platform is key to
the future of Java. Please do so! :-)

Please support Java on Linux.
Linux is Sun's biggest ally against Microsoft.
Linux is the biggest threat to Microsoft.

my business is developing for a client a
multi-million dollar web-based stock trading
system. we use Linux for development and
deployment. A supported JDK would be a major help.

My vote goes to a Linux JDK port.
Intel Linux and Sparc Linux
(for an old Sun 4c -- IPX -- that's not worth
the OS upgrade price from SunOS 4.1).

Please port JDK to Linux. It will help in development of Java products a great
deal.

Please support a Linux JDK port.

PLEASE Port Java Server to Linux!!!

Please offer Linux the same level of support that
you do for Windows. Microsoft is out to eliminate
Sun, Linux is not. A JIT and an official java
port are important.

Seems to me, you have two choices
1) Support JDK for Linux officially
2) Get Solaris x86 to run as well on a 386, 
   pound for pound (or rather bang for buck) 
   as Linux 
NOTE: Option 2 may not seem viable to you, 
      as Linux is free.

Please support a Linux/FreeBSD JDK port.

Please do port JDK to linux

JDK for Linux will help both Java and the general
credibility of Java's "run anywhere" paradigm
as well as promote the language further.
I develop software for Java, but I can't afford
to get Sun (or, ick, M$) just to get my job done.
Linux Port of JDK.. please!

Please port JDK to Linux

Please port the JDK to Linux.

I think the people have spoken:We want JDK/Linux 
as a priority platform!

As a university student who used Solaris in the
school labs and Linux at home, I believe this is
a great idea for Sun and the Un*x developer
community as a whole.

As a university student who uses Solaris in the
school labs and Linux at home, I believe this is
a great idea for Sun and the Un*x developer
community as a whole.

I could not see any company, involved in the
internet and unix community, turning down the
request to create linux ports.  It's the devel
platform of choice for us unix guys.  By resusing
this platform you can only hurt yourself.
Thank you.

linux is getting a lot of support.  i think
sun should get in now w/ java before others
do it themselves.

Please support Java on Linux fully (JDK)
We need a fully working Java.
I'm not alone, we are 7 millions

Join in to the fun and society of Linux!
Isn't it fun what it was all about at the beginings of Sun? Come on, go to your
grassroots and make the move, like Netscape did! Or is it that making money is
the only motto at Sun today? Don't loose the opportunity of being part of
something BIG, bigger than anything before it, in the computing world, namely
Linux!
I am shure that if you support and bundle UltraPenguin Linux on your Ultras,
you will sell a lot more Ultra 5's and 10,s. Come on out of the niches with
*THE* Linux machine, and you will be the biggest hardware vendor in the world.
You do extremely good hardware, but in OS stuff Linux is youre way to go
(Solaris is good, but it will certainly not be going to be installed in my
girlfriend's computer). Admit it you will *NOT* be the next Microsoft, and if
you do not join into the Open Source community movement you *WILL* be nothing!
You can certainly begin by porting the JDK and other stuff to Linux.
In a few words, port it or die!

Join in to the fun and society of Linux!
Isn't it fun what it was all about at the beginings of Sun? Come on, go to your
grassroots and make the move, like Netscape did! Or is it that making money is
the only motto at Sun today? Don't loose the opportunity of being part of
something BIG, bigger than anything before it, in the computing world, namely
Linux!
I am shure that if you support and bundle UltraPenguin Linux on your Ultras,
you will sell a lot more Ultra 5's and 10's. Come on out of the niches with a
(*THE*) Linux machine, and you will be the biggest hardware vendor in the
world. You do extremely good hardware, but in OS stuff Linux is your way to go
(Solaris is good, but it will certainly not be going to be installed in my
girlfriend's computer). Admit it you will *NOT* be the next Microsoft, either
if you want it or not, and if you do not join into the Open Source community
movement you *WILL* certainly be nothing!
A good start will be to release a Linux port for the JDK and other stuff.
In a few words, port it or die!

Port the JDK,
port the JDK,
if you don't port the JDK,
a "crusher" JDK may be spashed in your face,
and needless to say,
and needless to say,
you won't be part of it in any way.
Port the JDK,
port the JDK,
if you don't port the JDK,
you'll be wiped away,
wiped away,
wiped away,
since Linux paves the *WAY*!
Sincerely,
A Linux user, developer, integrator, and Lover

Or make JDK for Linux or I will go to Windoze...

JWS may 'run just fine on Linux', but my boss wont
OK it unless you gays SAY that it works. That means
you must SUPPORT it!

i wish to add my voice to those calling for an official java/jdk/swing for
linux

The point of jave is that it is supposed to run on anything.
Don't ignore the fastest growing platform out there
(except maybe the pilot)
You know the Linux community, it'll be done with 
or without your blessing.  If you do it, you are in
a lot better position to make sure that it is done
the way that you want it.

Linux is a solid development solution for C,
C++, CGI, perl, python, Motif and Tk/Tcl already,
how can there be any gain in not assisting in
adding Java's JDK to this list?  A Linux port
with the robustness and corporate support that the
Win32 port gets can only help the Java community
grow in both size and strength by leaps and bounds.

Linux is fast becoming the OS of the future. Free, fast, and with a dedicated
userbase, Linux provides a platform capable of competing with M$ Windows.
Please port Java, JDK, etc. to Linux. It will benefit both Linux users and Sun
Microsystems.

Add my vote to the list.
Sun-supported JDK/JRE for linux

Would make my job alot easier..

The reason that I've joined the JDC, was
because I heard that there was going to
be an official Linux port.

Please let JDK running on Linux/Alpha en Linux/i386 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love it when it will work !!

You should support Linux. It's an excellent 
development platform, with a constantly growing
number of users.
Because your SparcStations and Servers are placed
in the high end area, I don't think that becomes
a marketing problem for you.

Don't do what Microsoft did with the internet :
trust Linux...

Port to Linux! 
I don't understand what your problem is with
adding an extra 5 million+ users to the
customer base.

Give us an official linux JDK for god's sake.

I am all for cross platform programs
which is why I currently develop with
Acucobol.  The main positive feature of
it is platform-neutral object code. This
is why I would switch all development to
a supported JDK as long as it runs on Linux.

Yes please - a full JDK, up to the minute. Linux,
it seems to me, is an absolute gift to Java - it
would be a great shame not to exploit it.
While you're at it, folks, a non-antique JDK on
MacOS would be good. The non-MS OSs need all the
support they can get.

Please release a Linux JDK!

yay! this is one of the best ideas I've heard in a while...a java port that I
could rely on to be the same on my home linux box, my home pc, and my ISP!
Absolutely a great idea.

Please port the jdk to linux.  I work for a small ISP who's primary platform is
sparc solaris.  Our internal NT machines have been ditched (yay) in favor of
linux running apache and SAMBA, and we've started ditcthing Windows 95 for an
operating system that lasts longer than 1 day without a reboot.  Linux is
powerful, free, robust, stable, and absolutely NO competition with SUN.. It
competes with the bloated overpriced, poorly written garbage that microsoft
sells.  Please port it and make use non-windows users that much happier about
being in Linux :>

While you'd have to pry Apache out of my cold,
dead fingers, a port of the JDK to a truely
open OS would greatly help the press war...  I
realize you probably can't free the JDK code
because you cornered yourselves in the original
license agreements (much to MS's mirth), but
that would be a nice way not only to get a Linux
port but also, say, an HP/UX port...  Now that
would take the wind out of a few folks' sails.
Perhaps a thought for 1.3?
Jason

please port the full JDK to Linux. Especially for those 
of us not crazy about C/C++ but who love Java :-)
Linux would stand a better chance(with JDBC support) of 
getting the attention of Oracle/Sybase with full JDK support...

I am yet another Java developer who uses a
Sun at work but is forced to develop under
Windows at home. If the JDK had a reliable
port for Linux I would definitely switch to
using Linux at home and not have to change
mindset between Solaris and Windows development
tools.

I am the author of the free implementation of
the Java vecmath library among other tools.
I write and test all my Java software under Linux.
Please show your official support for Linux!

By porting JDK to linux you will help us to fight
KroSoft

I'd love to see a Linux port.  I'd love an Alpha Linux
port even more, but I suppose that's about as likely as
hell freezing over or Microsoft acting in an honorable manner.

Please, please, please port the full JDK and 
JavaWorkshop to Linux.

Sun has already wasted the efforts of the Linux
community in making them to port JVM/JDK et al.
What would have happened if all of that had gone
into *applications* instead of infrastructure?
Why Sun is hesitant to partner with the most
dynamic, autosupportive and technically skilled
community of users/programmers? Can't you see
the domino effect of Java being masively adopted
in the Linux community? Can't you imagine the
brand-new killer apps coming out from the
community, both *free* and *commercial*?

Please support JDK on Linux.

Please support JDK for linux. 

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Please port to Linux.  It would help many people

Oh, how wonderful an official Linux port of the JDK would be!  In the battle of
the JDKs (Sun vs MS), Linux can be a valuable ally.

This would definitely be something that many users would find useful, as can be
demonstrated by the sheer mass of replies on this subject already..

World domination for Java? Well, not without us! ;-)

Your support of Linux would be appreciated.

As a developer working primarily on a Linux platform,
my interest in Java development has grown in parallel
with the JDKs available (kudos to the blackdown guys...
it ain't perfect, but it's a good start!)
Unfortunately, the JDK isn't the most reliable thing
on the face of the earth. A fully developed and supported
JDK on Linux would certainly provide me with enough
impetuous to fully develop MY Java skills... and assuming
enough value was provided by the package, I'd be willing
to pay for it.
Netscape is doing it. Corel is doing it. Crack.com is
doing it... support Linux, and Linux will support you.

Please support the Linux JDK. Thank you.

Please make jdk for linux.  thanks in advance

A great deal of Java advocacy comes from Linux users
who see Java as a way to gain cross-platform apps
under Linux.  There is also a great deal of creative
development by Linux developers that benefits all
Unix versions, and with Java, could benefit all
platforms.  A supported JDK would be, it seems,
would benefit all of the interests represented by
Javasoft.

I use Linux; I like it.  It works.  I use Java; I like it too.  Why can't they
work together?  

The lack of a Linux version of JDK (and other Sun
Java Tools) is causing my company to delay
making an increased commitment to Java for our
in-house apps.  Java *needs* to be well-represented
on Linux!

Please make an official Sun port of JDK to Linux. 
We have the same agenda, please stop ignoring our 
existence- I have purchased alot of Sun hardware 
and use it in conjunction with Linux. We are on the 
same boat. Linux doesn't take away from your market- 
it does take away from M$'s market though.

It's clear that Linux Java developers make up a large
and growing proportion of total Java development.
However, many are put off by the lack of a standard
JDK port, and the time lag involved compared to Win32
and Solaris.
Making an official Linux port is the best thing
Sun could do to accelerate acceptance of Java
among the grassroots developer community.

I hope Sun does not share the ignorance with
M$. 
Hopefully Sun has more developers to do the port
than lawyers to fight against M$.

When new releases of JDK come out, that's when it
becomes available to the Linux porters.  So there's
an inevitable lag for Linux.  My reason to support
this request is to eliminate the JDK release lag
for Linux.
I use Solaris at work and Linux at home.  I use
JDK at both.

My originization will not take Sun's statement of 
"Write Once, Run Anywhere" until this bug is 
properly resolved.

Please officially port the JDK to Linux!  That way
we Linux users can write cool java apps and make
enough money to actually buy an Ultra 10 =)

It is not open, if not all platforms are supported

doit

Linux is the second most popular OS. Where do you want to go *tomorrow*? By not
porting Java, you're missing out on a *HUGE*, talented, dedicated developer
community that could be writing billions & billions of cool Java apps.

As the RFE has now changed the title and meaning:
Specifically, an engineer at Sun should serve
as ontact person for people maintaining the
current unofficial ports of JDK to Linux, to
accept patches and modifications that propagate
Linux-related changes to the UNIX (Solaris) JDK
source back into the main source tree, providing
builtin support for a configure/makefile/whatever
target "linux". Further differentiation with 
respect to i586, Alpha etc. might be worth while.
Providing Steve Byrnes et.al. with an SMI contact
for request on information relating to specific
problems would increase the stability of JDK on all
platforms, and would ease ports to other UNIX
platfroms. Yes, it might cut into the Solaris
market share, but it will also increase the 
market for Java based products.

Please, do it.

Help us help you fight the MS juggernaut!  Support
Java on Linux!  Please!!!

I love java as a language. But a sparcstation
at home is not something I can afford. And I think
it would be great if you guys would port the JDK to 
linux. 

If Java is going to be truely "write once - run anywhere",
Sun must make an offical JDK/Linux port.

At the risk of duplicating the comments of these good folks, i won't rant.  I
just wanted to add my .02 to the mix as one who uses Solaris at work and Linux
everywhere else, and would love to see some official Sun support for the Linux
platform.
Please port the full JDK to Linux.

me too!

Please support an OS that its users and developers
actively support standards and eschew "embrace
and extend" doctrine

Please "officially" support JWS and JDK on Linux.
The choice here is NT or Linux; if Linux is not a
possibility, then NT will win and Sun will get $0.00
of our money and we will grudgingly have to pay Microsoft.

Please, provide official Linux support. Follow
Netscape in considering Linux strategic in the
fight against M$.

I have both a Sun and 3 PCs at home -- Please provide a 
Linux port for those PCs (I'll get rid of MS then).

Please support a Linux JDK port.

I'd really like to see a full blown release for Linux.
It's time to support linux.

Please support a Linux JDK. My Java software runs on OS/2 and AIX alone, and
I'm quite satisfied there, but I use Linux at home and would love to take my
development work home with me.

Please support a Linux JDK port

of all platforms Sun should be focusing on, Linux
should be very high on their list. Please fully support
a linux JDK port.

What are you waiting for fixing THE bug?

An 'official' port of the JDK to Linux would
make many of our lives nicer.  Don't get me wrong,
I'm very grateful that several people have spent
a lot of time providing us with non-offical ports,
and they work well enough for me.  I would like
to see Sun acknowledge the Linux community as a 
major development community for Java, and provide
us with an offical port of the JDK.  I personally
already do all of my Java development on Linux.
Besides, if Sun wants Java to be taken seriously
for it's cross-platform abilities, then there 
needs to be offical ports to these environments.

Please support Linux JDK!

Having JDK1.2 and the 3D API's with Mesa support on Linux would confirm the
genius of Sun's management!

please support jdk on linux

Please give the Linux community access to a solid JDK and
JRE.  I for one would prefer notto have a dual boot machine
just to develop on.  IF I can do without using a MS 
solution, so much the better.
Thanks
George

The unix world needs to unify against Microsoft 
and their attemot at subverting the 100% Java 
standard. Help University Students studying Java
to use the proper environment, but producing a 
version of JDK and the Java Server for Linux.
Netscape has released its source which puts javascript 
into the open source world, but the true full
blown java is being hacked by others simply 
because Sun hasn't relized the importance of a 
Linux port.
Help us provide an alternative for Microsoft in
higher education by providing the tools that help
the students grow and think. Sun used to do this
with its products. Please give something back.

Would be very nice to see you to support alternative
dev platforms

I have developed Java Servlets under Linux using the
existing JDK port maintained my the Linux
community, however it is impossible for them to
maintain a package which is as up-to-date as the
one which comes from Sun. There have been many 
times I have wished that there was an official
port of the JDK/JRE to Linux.
I feel that if an official port is not maintained,
there will surface clones of Java which are not
fully compliant in the Linux world (which
already seems to be happening) which would make
Java less attractive to developers such as myself.

Please consider porting the JDK to Linux and
supporting it. Thanks!

Please port the JDK (if not the kitchen sink)
to Linux.

Agreed. Solaris is definitely out of the price range
for most independent developers. But there's a lot of
us that need a _productive_ development environment for 
Java, and Linux would provide that perfectly. 

We badly need a fully supported port of Java for Linux
- take a look at http://www.jcam.com - developed
on Linux and soon to be ported to Solaris ... now
how about Sun returning the favour ... ;-)

A JDK for Linux would be perfection.

Please Port JDK to Linux.

How about a port to all unices, after all this is supposed to be the write once,
 run ANYWHERE language.
Or maybe we only need to work on 90% of the desktops?

Linux becomes a very important element of 
entire Internet culture.
I think even more important than java.
If JDK will be ported to Linux java may become really popular.
Do Win32 users need java - I do not think so, 
they already have VC++. 
Just ask a question is a Win32 developer inetested
in writing an application for Solaris. Nobody does this.
Do Solaris users need java - I do not think so, 
they are prety much happy with what they already have. 
Just ask a question is a Solaris developer interested 
in writing an application for Win32. Almost nobody does this.
But if you ask is an average Linux developer interested 
in writing an application for Win32, Solaris, OS/2, etc.
I think the answer is yes.
This is an oportunity for java.

Support for Linux would be awesome......
Please......Please.....Please....Just support
LINUX!

Linux becomes a very important element of 
entire Internet culture.
I think even more important than java.
If JDK will be ported to Linux java may become really popular.
Do Win32 users need java - I do not think so, 
they already have VC++. 
Just ask a question is a Win32 developer inetested
in writing an application for Solaris. Nobody does this.
Do Solaris users need java - I do not think so, 
they are prety much happy with what they already have. 
Just ask a question is a Solaris developer interested 
in writing an application for Win32. Almost nobody does this.
But if you ask is an average Linux developer interested 
in writing an application for Win32, Solaris, OS/2, etc.
I think the answer is yes.

I simply want to add my support for a Linux JDK 
port. I believe it is in the best interests of 
Java to do this.

A lot of good points have already been mentioned.
- as much as i would like to own an UltraSparc,
  there is no way i can afford it (i'm a student)
  so i run linux
- java can build excellent, optimized servers.
  the majority (?still?) of internet servers are
  linux-based.
- linux users are (mostly) crazed programmers and
  code-hackers who live to sit around and write
  cool stuff. java is cool.
- i don't really know how much work it can be to
  officially support a linux JDK, a lot of other
  applications run on linux and solaris without
  many changes.
- has anyone mentioned yet that linux has had
  native java binary support for almost a year
  now?
I hope we see Sun supporting an official JDK
on Linux very soon. The increased user-base alone
should make your mouths water...

By supporting Linux as well as Solaris with the JDK,
you'd be adding to the perception of UNIX as a viable
platform for new systems.  
While *we* all know that it's already a more-than-viable 
platform, many companies still need to be convinced.
Not doing so just plays into the hands of NT :{ 

My personal JAVA "growth" has been stunted by 
the lack of an efficient Linux JDK.  Linux is 
the womb of many a future developer.  Linux is 
an exciting, powerful, and easily available 
environment for aspiring hackers and world 
shakers.  With Sun supported JDK, these young
ones (like me!) will get a chance to grow and 
love JAVA.  As it stands, I find it hard to sit
and watch my poor little PC writhe in agony 
over the current JAVA port available to Linux.
(Not to put down those Linux porters, they work
hard with no financial support!)

Convert to Linux!
Freedom for Java!
Open your sources!
or else ...

Do consider, then more applications will be developed in Java. 

Full JDK -- PLEASE!

Port and support it all.

Even though there is a stable JDK release for Linux
(www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html), it is always several
versions behind Sun.  I would LOVE to see Sun
produce an Official JDK for Linux, along with the JFC
(Swing), and JRE.

The company that I work for does not allow me to 
use Linux to develop Java apps, only because Sun
has not supplied an official version of the JDK, 
the JRE, and the JFC. ***Please*** port JDK to 
Linux. It definitely wouldn't be a waste of time.
And it would be one less reason to boot to Win95.

Linux JDK ports have been unified under a single
set of diffs. See:
http://business.tyler.wm.edu/mklinux/index.html
for more information (and the PowerPC JDK port).

Please support a Linux JDK port.

This would be extremely helpful if there was an official
Sun JDK for Linux. 

I would also like to see a high-quality, supported port of the JDK for Linux.
Linux is an extremely important platform, and it is a significant problem that
there is no Sun port.

I work on linux for my PhD thesis. I would like
to work on solaris to enjoy jdk, jws and jfc.
But the reality is that the box I work on is a
linux box.
So, i reckon that you want to push ahead solaris                               
                                as the preferred java development platform but
as the preferred java development platform but
why Windows and not Linux. (i'm teasing here :-)
Linux is no more a toy OS, it's powerfull and
moreover, it's being used in many real size
development projects.

Do not underestimate the impact Linux is having!
My company recently made the decision to go all
Microsoft for IS, and are scrapping all the UNIX
desktops except for a few important ones.  At our
HQ, this is Sun; here, this is mostly SCO.  There
is already a plan to get rid of all the SCO boxes.
This would make us an all-Microsoft shop - except
for the Linux boxes we've put in.  The reason
these are staying is because they do their jobs
better, and with less resources, than NT.
Linux, by itself, may be the catalyst for pushing
Java here, since it is the only non-Microsoft
platform with a future here.  Apart from it, we
would have no incentive to develop in anything 
but MS VC++.  It's still a battle, but official 
Sun support would help quite a bit!

I wanted to vote for bug #4137729, but since this bug has been deemed a
'duplicate' of that one I guess I'll have to vote here instead...
How many votes will it take before something is done?
Please port the JDK to Linux!

Jdk 1.2 for linux will be a great thing for Sun.
No to mention for the millions of linux people around
the world that than me develop on java.

Please address the need for an "official" port of the JDK to Linux. 
I run 3 Sun servers and 6 Linux boxes,
and I would appreciate being able to triple the number of machines I can
develop on.

Please support a Linux JDK port

Please, oh please, _support_ Java Server Linux!

looking fowrad to it...

Please do a port for Linux.

The people I work with don't want me using a
unoffical release of the JDK.  Please support
Linux!

Just in case my vote gets messed up. It says Empty vote.
I agree that The JDK should be fully supported on Linux.
I think Linux and JDK will have a better chance when
they are fully intergrated.  RJH

Yes, this means enough to me to spend all 3 of
my votes on it. I use Linux in my room and for
all of my personal development; the CS department
here (Williams College) uses Suns for the high-end
stuff and Macs for everything else. gcc already
allows me to do my projects on both/either; the
blackdown port is what I use currently, but having
an official, stable (!) port would be wonderful, 
and let me have a true cross-platform development
environment - work at home, work in the lab, no 
difference. And Sun isn't losing any money on it, 
because there's no way I can afford a SPARC anyway - 
in fact, this would make me more partial towards
Solaris as a central server OS in the future.

Dont make me have to wait for MS Jaza-- for linux...

Please provide a Linux port of the JDK (and Java3D!)

Linux is a very important platform for making the
java standard realized.  Sun should port JDK
(amoung other things) to linux imediately.

Port it!

A port of the JDK to Linux is essential. Developers have made Java a sucess,
please don't ignore them now. Look at #4137729: in less than 24 hours from the
time it was posted, it has received 452 votes and is now #3 on the bug list.
You invited the people who use Java to vote on the bugs and / or feature
requests that they feel are important. They have spoken loud and clear; please
listen.

Are you guys at Javasoft reading _ANY_ of this?

How about dumping this currently lousy Linux JDK and giving
something that works *way* better, like, an official
port? That would be da kewl.

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Give us a full port You wont regret it.

I've already posted comments in reference to the
now-famous bug #4137729, so I'll just add a request
that you not neglect non-x86 Linux if (when?) Sun
starts doing an official Linux JDK. Thanks again!

When will we hear from you on this?

Please add Linux to your list of officially
supported platforms.

Please provide full java/JDK/JRE support for linux.
This will benefit you as well as all of the linux
developers around the world.

Please port the JDK to Linux

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Please create a full-featured JDK for Linux. 
A Sun-supported port to Linux will eventually
become a mandate, anyway, as more and more
organizations view it as a first-class OS. Of
course, Solaris will suffer, but you can't win
them all.

If SUN had an offical java port for linux, my school
Bowie State University, would use both the Linux
OS and Java language more in undergraduate classes.

Currently, 10-25% of all web servers on the Internet use Linux and Apache.  By
not providing a port for this percentage of users, you are discouraging the
development of true Write-Once, Run-Anywhere..  You are saying..  Write-Once,
run on most of Internet servers..  Wouldn;t all be a best bet?  A linux port
would be 1000 times easier to do then a Win32 port, so why not put a little
extra effort and get it out there?

Please support a Linux JDK port.

I recently recommended a new server to a website manager who runs a JWS site
that generates informational pages from an SQL database using Java servelets. 
I proposed a linux solution, but unfortunately he refused because the linux
port lacked offical support.  As a result, he spent several thousand dollars
more paying for the NT Server and Database.
Please, please give as much attention to linux as you would Solaris or Windows
NT!

Don't pull a Microsoft.  Accept the fact that Linux exists and is used as a
cost effective OS by a large number of developers.  Please port the JDK,
starting with the Java server, to Linux.

I agree, I beleive Linux has proven itself as a
viable and important market for Java.  In much the
same way that Java was adopted en masse by the 
Internet community and so made a success, Linux is
currently undergoing the same process.  This is held
up in the numbers recently posted by IDC which
show Linux as the fastest growing non-Microsoft
operating system available today.

LINUX PORT??? YES!!  THAT WOULD BE THE BEST THING YOU COULD POSSIBKLY DO RIGHT
NOW.  PLEASE GET PUBLIC OPINION AND CONSIDER THIS!

I think this is the biggest bug SUN should fixed.
Considering there are million of programmers  
deloping on top of Linux.  This will definately
keep people away from using some M..soft
java development product. :-)

A jdk port for linux from would be great! 

Please... Please.. Support JDK on Linux. 
Particular ports are well, but we ned more robust
VM an International Support...

Linux support would be great! Many software companies
such as Netscape and Corel are catching on to Linux,
and I predict it will become very popular in the 
future. 

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Portink JDK to Linux would be an excellent move

You've got my vote

You just kadda support Linux,
and please please please PLEASE hurry.
I don't wanna install MS to developed with JDK1.2.

Who works with Linux ends buying sun for heavy duty
work! Think abuot it and support our community.
Thank you

Please support a Linux JDK port.

I like Java and I like Linux. W95 and NT
 are expensive and unstable and I have 
grown tired of dealing with those platforms.
 There is an army of dedicated developers for Linux.
 If you want access to them have the JDK run 
on Linux too. 

Fix this "bug", better sooner than later.

Yes! "Runs Everywhere"... Shouldn't everywhere include the most
widespread unix-like OS on earth?
Give Billy-Boy *real* competition by not forcing us to use his products!

Support Linux NOW!

I can't stand the idea of having to develop under a MS OS, be it W95 or NT. So
please, pretty please, officially port the full array of your Java tools to
linux.

Java on Linux is one of the most exciting areas 
in personal computing.  I'd love to see the best 
support possible for this combination.

I'd like to see the blackdown.org code made
part of the official JDK source tree and
supported for x86 Linux. This would be good 
for Sun and Java both, IMHO.

Dear Sun:
Could we please at least get some sort of 
indication that our postings aren't 
" > /dev/null"?

It's a good idea !!! :))

A Linux port would be greatly appreciated.

I don't want to use Windows to develop my 
Java-Applications any more. I hate rebooting 
several times a day.

Here's another request... blackdown is too touch-and-go, and too slow, but it's
certainly a proof of concept...

Because Linux does not have a good solid JDK
is one of my main resons for not going over
to Linux right now at home.  Although I will
be going over in the next month.

Please do port the JDK to linux.. I can use the 
windows takes on my hard disk! Linux JDK is VERY
important.

Java has become the language of choice for developers who
want a ticket out of the overly arcane, complex and
proprietary programming environment imposed on them by
Microsoft. Linux is rapidly becoming a platform of choice
for Java (as well as other types of) development by many of
the market's most talented developers.
Sun knows that to succeed, it must woo away as much of the
precious development talent as possible from Microsoft's
closed and proprietary architecture. And, while switching to
Solaris might be a nice idea, the ubiquity and low price of
Intel based hardware combined with the easy availability of
Linux makes that an unlikely scenario. (Sorry, Solaris x86
probably just won't cut it until they start giving away the
source code. ;)
Sun should take this opportunity to leverage the gaining
momentum of the Linux community and do an official port of
the JDK to Linux. Rather than being a threat to Solaris
sales, it might even enhance them by virtue of the fact that
Linux workstations would be a lot easier to integrate into
Solaris environments than those pesky, tempermental Windows
boxes. At the very least it would help to ween people away
from the FUD induced notion that they somehow need to stick
with Windows in order to be "safe."
Come on Sun. This is a golden opportunity for you. Don't
pass it up!

Java I believe was written for the ability to
compile it on any OS and transport it to any
other OS.  Keeping this in mind, I believe
any OS show have a write to have Java to Linux and
any other regulary used OS.  Like kW said the full
JDK.  This would make Java what it was intended.

I agree totally with the idea of an official Sun port of
the JDK for Linux.

I would concur with these comments here, even though
there have been great ports to the Linux platform
for JDK's, it would be super if Sun came out with
one for Linux.  A Libc5(for compatibility sake)
and the new GLIBC port as well for those who have
that!

JDK please!!!

You've heard what we have to say (this presumes you're listening), now we'd
like to hear what you have to say about all of this. -- please respond.

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Sun, help us help you!!!  Developers for intel based machines would like to be
able to use a free OS (linux) to impliment Java for our clients.  It saves our
clients loads of money for a networkable OS (thousands over Micro$oft!!!).  We
don't want to have to use Microsoft to develop & impliment our Java apps,
but what choice do we have when it's the only OS for Intel that has a reliable
working JDK & JRE!!!  I use linux at home on a intel pc.  I hate having to
use M$ NT just for developing java.  I would like to dump it off my hard drive.
 It's kind of ironic that you have to use a Microsoft OS to develop a
"platform independant" product..........

Some of the best code right now is being written
by Linux folks... it would be in Sun's best interest
do make Java a more appealing enviroment for Linux
users.

To the linux community, an ultra-sparc running solaris is totally cool.  It's
what we'd use at home if we had the money, and what we tell (and help) our
bosses to install at work.  Porting our native code to it requires a recompile
and maybe a couple of obvious tweaks.
To the windows community, solaris and ultra-sparc are proprietary non-standard
garbage, by definition obsolete, to be ignored only until it can be replaced. 
Porting code to it is a frightening undertaking, requiring skills they don't
haveand intuitively going in the wrong direction.
Which of these two attitudes do you want to promote?  You're supporting the
second, and not the first.  Why?
P.S.  I'm doing Java on OS/2.  The resources of IBM are quite sufficient to
keep the OS/2 JDK within three months of the Sun JDK.  We don't get stuff like
the 1.2 beta code, but I don't mind.  I'm writing code for a living here, I'd
wait until other people had tripped over the most obvious bugs anyway before
trusting my job to it.  I'm using 1.1.4 and quite happy to stay here until 1.2
is officially released.
I've been thinking of broadening my skill base by installing Linux on a second
partition and learning Unix, but haven't done so for one reason: the Linux JDK
is almost as bad as the Macintosh's.  If I could just get a "slightly
stale but very solid" JDK for it (like the 1.1.4 I'm using now), I'd be
messing with Linux by the weekend.
By the way everybody: Right now Sun's devoting all its efforts to getting Java
1.2 GM'd and out the door.  They probably won't even LOOK at this defect (or
get much sleep) until after that happens, and I can't blame them.  They're
swamped.  Let's not start any email campaigns or anything until after 1.2 is
released.  THEN go for blood. :)

seems to me that one more platform that runs Java as Java was intended to run
is a plus!  What say you Sun?

I have been a Java developer since 1.0.  I have
been a Linux user since before that, and my love
of Java has forced me to dual boot into Windows
just to do Windows development.  I beg Sun 
Microsystems to port Java to Linux.  

Sun: do the right thing -- port the full JDK to Linux.

Making blackdown.org part of the source tree would be fine, if it worked
reliably.  
I don't wish to fault the work being done on the unsupported port; however, I
have yet to get any of our heavy-duty RMI stuff to work on it.

please support linux.

If Java shall be multiplatform, 
the Linux port is a must!

In short:
Linux is one of opponents of NT.
It's influence is notably growing every few weeks.
If you fight NT, support Linux if you can.

Please support the porting the JDK to linux.  The
ones that are out already are "ok".. but they 
need help... and only YOU can make them better.
Please... help the poor little jdk... it needs a
good home...

Please support java on Linux!

Please support a Linux port of the JDK and
other Java development tools offered by Sun
(and JavaSoft). As it is, a Linux port is always
months behind the Sparc and Windows releases
from Sun.
Please help support a constantly growing community
of Linux Java developers.

So how about some comments from the folks at Sun?  Are we wasting our
collective breath here?  Can we expect an official port anytime soon?
At the very least, it would be nice to hear something like "We're
considering it, but we have the following reservations: X, Y, and Z"

Please actively support Linux. You know it makes sense

Please support the full suite of Java tools for Linux!

Do the full JDK port plz!!! I hate booting to
winnt just to do some usefull java work ;-(

Port it!

Please Port the JDK to Linux!
Thanks!

Having the JDK on Linux, ported from Sun is
certainly one of the hot-night dreams of all the
Linux O-O programmers, who not turn to languages
like C++, Objective C, Eiffel, etc. just because
they are object oriented.  But having Java run
on their machines is another thing, that will
probably give a lot more momentum to Java in the
Linux world.  After all, why use Winbloze if one
can use Solaris at work and Linux at home :)))

Once more, with feeling:
Please port the JDK to Linux. Then I'd *never*
have to boot my workstation to NT.

I'm a lab assistant for a Unix OS class at a local community
college here in New Mexico. We use Linux as the OS and I also
do the web page for the class and it would be REAL NICE to have 
your support for Java. There are enough different languages and
versions of languages already. Let's keep Java unified.
-Peace

Please support a Linux port, as my company uses
Linux, LinuxRT and GNU for embedded controllers,
and we would love to use Java to the same capability.
The full JDK would be apprecriated.

Please port JDK to Linux.

Please support a Linux JDK port. This will benefit Sun a lot

Please consider supporting a Linux JDK port.
If Java is to succeed it will need the support of
Corporate computing professionals. To get that
support you must either enter the corporate
environment through the front door where you need
the Microsoft name to be fully accepted. Or you can
enter by the back door where all that is required to
succeed is that a solution be useful and cooperate
with other back door solutions currently in use (read
Linux, the fasted growing operating system in the world).

You know that all of the college students running
Linux now are going to be the developers of
tomorrow (more literally than you think).  Your
support of the OS will bring their support to you.
My suggestion:  Do It!

Please consider supporting JDK for Linux

Please port Java to the soon will be most
popular platform (Linux)

Please port the full JDK to Linux. Old, unofficial
versions are not always enough and Windows is not 
an option.

"write once, run anywhere" but I prefer to write it on Linux

I beg Sun Microsystems to port JDK to Linux.
It would be nice to have such a great language
supported on such a great OS.

I believe Java will get a tremendous boost in terms of developer support with
the availability of a first-class port of the JDK to the Linux operating
system.

I would appreciate an official JDK Port to Linux.
The guys who ported the JDK to linux do a good job.
But an official port would help Linux to become
a more powerfull and serious development plattform,
and it would help java because Linux is a low cost
and robust plattform for development and for intra-
/ internet servers.

Please help us help you: official support for Linux
would further validate Java as WORA and gain the 
loyalty and support of a talented influential 
community of developers.
Linux complements Solaris by providing a largely-
compatible, open systems based platform for 
home machines, students, and entry-mid level systems.
The more people using Un*x systems, and Java on 
Un*x systems, the better things will be for Sun.

I am forced to do my Java development at work on 
M*soft platforms. I have tried using OS/2 at home 
but it doesn't support innerclasses yet. I also
run Linux at home for research use related to my
master's degree studies and would love to be able
to do Java development and debugging in Linux.
Please port all of it (full function of latest version)
to Linux. I would really like to move away from
the evil empire (m*soft) as much as I possibly can.

An official Linux port of among other things the JDK would probably be a good
idea, considering Linux has already got a quite big userbase and it's growing
rapidly. A much bigger part of the Linux users than of most other OS:s are
programmers. Therefore Linux is probably a bigger market than it might seem.

if java vm should be portable, you must make it
portable! So support a portable platform - Linux.

Support Java for Linux please. 
Our Sun runs Linux (!).

Please official support a Linux and FreeBSD
 JDK port.

Supporting the JDK on Linux needs to be done - 
it's central to the platform agnostic tenets on 
which Java was based.  If Java works a little 
better on Sun then how different is that from 
Microsoft's position? 

Please support Linux.
I ask as a Java/Linux developer.
Thanks.

Support Java for Linux please. 

Simply .... Sparc's = Ł5000 +
And starting out developers can no-way afford to outlay that kinda cash. So a
PC and linux is usally
the onlyway, without resorting to evil M$. And surely sun want to support the
development of pure java by
people who really want to see it grow in the world, not some strange M$
infected version, like is starting
to come about with the window's "ONLY" classes and so make java not
truely portable. And anyway, why on 
earth is sun developing JDK at the same rate "almost" for windoze and
not for closer OS's like all of the
brands of linux.

A sun supported port of the JDK for Linux would 
just be great.
Please consider also using native threads...

Linux JDK all the way!

Take a stab at Microsoft.  Port to Linux!

How can Sun ignore such a large part of the
developer community?? A part that also seems to
favour them over MS.
*boggle* what the hell are they thinking??

I would like to see a nice JRE on linux.

Please put more effort into porting the JDK to Linux.

Linux is spreading over the globe. So wouldn't it be great if there was a
offcial SUN JDK for it. There are alot of systemadministrators and programmers
running linux at home. Even though a few of us have a SUN machine at work, we
dont have them in our homes. I would switch to a SPARC if they would be made as
a low-budget(homeuse puter). That would help me in my work as a few of
coworkers. Until that day comes, i suggest that SUN supports the JDK project
for linux.

Sun suported JDK - JRE - JVM for Linux please... 
Ima professional Java Developer and definitly 
would find it beyond nice to not have my current
VM crash during development every 10 minutes =) 

See above.

Linux is the future of UNIX. And SUN has to face that. Give us a chance to
escape the Gates of Hell.

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Could I say more?

I have an overwhelming desire to develop on a platform that doesn't crash...

Hey Sun the best way to fight Microsoft is to support everyone else, espically
Linux.

A _supported_ port of the JDK and JRE to linux (or
a selection of free-OS platforms whether it is
linux or not)
would enable many developers to move their efforts
away from a Microsoft enviroment. This would leave
Microsoft in a position where they would no longer
have as much control over the development
directions (of i.e. JAVA).
I think, that SUN has already realized that the
market is changing, and that the best moneymaker
in the computer business will gradually change
from software to knowledge. As
"application" development becomes a skill posessed
by even novel computerusers.
The JAVA programming language has shown, that
releasing and support semi-free software
can spin-off cash, as well as goodwill and the
most awesome developing speed senn till this date.
Now, take the final decision, and support some
of the free operating systems (Linux, freeBSD..).
Often, development on these platform is actually
easier than on vendor platforms, because the free
platform has to be compatible with every and all
vendor platform in order to survive.
So, the dicision of porting JDK/JRE/Java server
to linux (and actively supporting it) has strong
arguments on both strategic,economic and develop-
ment sides.
Please consider a path that can take SUN and JAVA
even further into the lead in the computer busi-
ness of the future.
-- 
Helge Jensen

Using an ancient JDK in linux is really
slowing things down.  Please port JDK
to linux.  Having a new JDK for solaris
is useless if application cannot be used
on linux later.

Please port GDK or at least JRE to Linux!

Please port JDK & native threads pkg to Linux!

Let's go Linux

What you can offer is the power to have
a real free development platform...

It would be nice to have an "official" and 
up-to-date port of the JDK for Linux...

I believe that support of the upcoming HotSpot technology would be a mjor
contributing factor.

If you need any more proof that Linux is the Unix system
of choice for the future, take note that Sun just released
their 64-bit Solaris today, something Linux has had on
_Sun hardware_ for months.  That, combined with the recent
effort to standardize a Linux base system across vendors
should make it obvious where the future of Unix lies.
Solaris is a fine product; but its market is too limited
to compete with Linux for the majority of desktops.  A
fully-supported JDK for Linux--which would open up a
market for Sun's products like JWS, JavaSafe, etc.--will
make Sun 10 bucks for every dollar it cuts into the
market for Solaris.

I fully agree that timely support for JDK/Linux, as well as other tools, would
be wonderful.  I am a Comp. Sci student who has done a little coursework with
Java, and found Blackdown's 1.1.3 port of JDK to be superior to the VMs in any
browsers (to the point that a project that ran fine on Appletviewer for Linux
ran out of memory on a better-equipped NT box).  For this environment to
continue to be a viable alternative for those of us (such as college students)
who can't possibly afford workstations, we need versions as up-to-date as the
Wintel and commercial Unix versions - it would help Java, and as several people
noted, not harm Sun.  (I wouldn't be using a Pentium 75 if I _could_ have a
Sparc)

As a final-year Computer Science undergraduate who has
just finished a personal project learning Java, I am
the sort of person who will be promoting Java, and hence
Sun, as a cross-platform solution in future.
Yet Sun do not support me in this, and in fact, I had
several problems with the unofficial Linux JDK I used.
Sun, when will you support myself and other vocal Java
advocates and port the whole of JDK and Java Workshop
to Linux?

Yes, we definitly need a Sun supported and maintained JDK for Linux

Yes, we definitly need a Sun supported and maintained JDK for Linux

I fully agree with all the other commenters!

Linux is *NOT* a bastard step-child! As *THE*
viable alternetive to MS Windows, it deserves
your full support. You may be suprised how much
support you receive when you do.

Please!

S.O.S

Linux rules, JDK rocks.  JDK and Linux rocks
and rules!!

Please support JDK on Linux,
I want to remove Windows from my disk.

International JDK for Linux would be great !

You should !
Linux does too much for Sun, Solaris and Java,
though not many at Sun & JavaSoft seem to realize
it. This may just be one of those "tides in the
afairs of men which, taken at the flood, lead one to
fortune". Simple contemplation doesn't do the trick!

please support JDK under linux.

Being a bit of a Linux fan, I would like to add
my support to this call for an offical Sun port
of the JDK onto Linux. Being a student, Linux is
the only real option I have to use Unix at home,
as I just simply can't afford Solaris x86. Think
about developers of the future, do you really want
us all to become Microsoft users?

Please support a Linux JDK.

I too would like to add my plea for a complete
JDK for Linux.  Unfortunatly, I can't take my
workstation home with me on evenings and weekends.

There should be NO reason for supplying an Windows JDK 
without supplying (and supporting) an Linux JDK.
Do you really like to strengthen Microsoft's position?
I vote in favor of an native Linux JDK with
JWS & Co.

Full support for JDK on Linux would be very cool.

Please support JDK on Linux.
(up to date and 'official' version)

I could use Solaris at work, but don't, because I can't afford a workstation at
home, and I want to keep things consistent.  If there was a supported, solid
JDK port to linux, I would use it at home and be one less soldier dealing with
Microsoft.  This is #1 on the request list, and I have yet to see a response --
I'm sure everyone would appreciate it if you would make your position clear.

The bug votes for this Linux bug are a farce.
Two weeks ago, over a period of 1 hour I observed the total number of votes
increasing at a rate of around 3 every 5 minutes.
Presumably some Linux fan has written a snappy little (Java) app to do his
dirty work for him (or her)!

Well, for a second comment:
First, I'd like to join with those wondering why there has been no official
response from Sun about this.  The subject has been changed -- that is all.
I admin the machines at a small webhosting company -- currently FreeBSD and
Linux for budget reasons (could be either, random sampling).  This is my
weekend and evening job.  During the day, I write UML and Java code, even
though the code generally runs on Windows systems.  This leads me to too odd
difficulties:
Difficulty the first:
  I love Java.  Both as a language and a platform.  I also spend an annoying
amount of time writing Perl and C++ code.  Why?  Because Java doesn't run well
(in real world situations) on Linux machines.  The JRE ports are nice -- just
not ready for prime time yet.  I don't run the JWS either (though I do at the
day-job office, on (bleah) WinNT) -- no decent JRE.  I'd love to use servlets
instead of CGI -- I don't have a decent JRE.  Anyone spotting a trend here?
Difficulty the second:
  I'm fighting strenuously to defend Java as a development direction.  Even
though companies like Rational are endorsing it with their products, its hard
to show that to a PHB more interested in glitzy demos.  If I had an UltraSparc
in my office, I could demonstrate cross platform deployment -- but I don't. 
We're restricted to intel based PC hardware.  Unfortunately, I can't really use
Linux as the deployment platform -- no stable JRE.  An unstable demo would, in
this situation, be a lot worse than none at all.
I can get around a few of these problems by using applets running in Netscape
-- our serious software is Java APPLICATIONS, though.  Some of our customers
are beginning to get into NCs (one is in process of switching to ALL NCs) --
these are large commercial accounts.  I'd like to help them.  To do that, I
really need at least a decent JRE on the Linux platform (which would make a JDK
almost a matter of distributing a couple of extra classes...).
Do our customers all run Suns?  No.  But our current product /is/ ported to Sun
(heck, we even sold a copy to Sun) -- all customers have the option of using
Sparcs now.  Using Java for our next release (as opposed to VC++, or
powerbuilder, both proposed) allows them to stay with sun.  Few customers that
would choose Sun now would switch to Linux (other supported platforms are HP-UX
and AIX).  We're adding NT to this mix.  Our smaller customers may go for Linux
over NT -- none of our Solaris customers will touch Linux with a 10' pole. 
Help us help them, please.

Sun developers, please, don't be so arrogant like Microsoft. Support instantly
growing community of Linux users. Otherwise we must help us ourselves ...
***************************************************************
Current version of JDK (1.1.6) for Linux can be found at:
ftp://lagrange.la.asu.edu
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Official support for linux JDK would be great.
It would help both Java adoption and Linux.

Please, PORT IT!

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
- Middle Eastern saying
Porting the JDK to Linux is a win for Sun because
it
1) gets more developers off the Windhose platform
2) increases the population of Java developers
3) increases the usage of java apps
4) promotes UN*X experience among the masses
5) generates good will among developers
It's a no brainer.


1) It generates good will among developers

Pretty please. With sugar on top.

Support write-once-run-anywhere
Support Linux JDK!

Make this happen - Don't make us all to move to 
Microsoft camp. Also, the Linux ports for beta
versions are essential. 

I would like to add my $0.02 worth too. PLEASE 
port the JDK to Linux. I guess it is allot like
the label on this bottle of beer:
Keiths - "Alexander brewed his beer slowly, 
carefully, taking the time to get it right...."
Ok, Ok, it was on the box, but who would know?
Anyway, a SUN JDK for Linux would be great,
but the "homebrew's" are good 'till then - there
will be a port to Linux won't there?

Please, give Linux users a good port of the JDK
and JRE along with a JIT.

As if you needed any more reasons to officially endorse one or more Linux JDK
ports: adoption of the javax.servlet API as the standard method of doing
server-side programming would be almost assured if most servers ran them,
because of the technological advantages of servlets.  But today, if I want to
design a site using servlets, I have to find a server running NT/ISS, because
most of the net still runs Linux/Apache, for which there is no reliable servlet
engine.

I've recently read (at http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/ju-27.05.98-000/) 
that Sun has become a member of Linux International. So, it should only be 
a question of time until JDK for Linux becomes available.

Please let new releases of the jdk be available
on Linux at the same time as they are for Win96/NT.

Would be really cool, please do a decnt port

I'm tired of developing java on windows,
give me a good jdk+jit on linux, support as
many extensions as you can, the jws etc and just watch us 
go. 

Please port and fully support ALL your Java 
products to Linux, starting with the JDK, SDK &
JavaServer. A large number of web sites and ISPs run Linux
and in order for the brilliant strategy of 
server-side Java Servlets & servers to replace
CGI and ASP, you need to make Java easily available
on Linux. This is your greatest hope for Java 
vs. Microsoft and all those incredibly loyal 
Linux users would quickly jump on Sun's Java 
bandwagon.  It just makes too much sense to
not do!

Please, please please.. Yes, we need a Java port to linux. A complete JDK would
be very nice of you. We are people who really got tired of dummy operating
systems and now we really like Linux. Linux is the only UNIX away from
workstations and it's really time for you to help another version of UNIX, you
have been using UNIX since it was made.

Giving developers a fully supported JDK on Linux would
reduce their inclination to use MS Visual J++, etc. This 
would also discourage the use or proprietary MS extensions
to Java. I think both of these goals are in line with Sun's
corporate direction. I think the cost would be greatly 
outweighed by the benefits.

If you want to hurt Microsoft, and help me at the
same time, you will support the Linux platform for
all of your Java products.

I dont want to run JDK under Windows at home,
Linux is my UNIX option.

How come there is no SUN JDK version available for developpers most used OS,
Linux?

I dont want to run JDK under Windows at home,
Linux is my UNIX option.

It's quite simple. Support the full JDK for Linux, or I have to develop Java
using WinNT and it's Java features.

I've read some of the others' comments and I think they're all quite right. 
Java and Linux seem made for each other.  To me that means there's a
philosophical synergy to be had there which will benefit those in both worlds. 
Linux-types believe in the same things about computing that Java-types do.  I
think it's a great match, with great potential, and yes, I'd like a JDK for
linux myself.

I would like to see the JDK, JRE and "extra" packages
supported on Linux. Hey, why not all Javasoft stuuf?
Didn't Sun recently announce support for the Linux
project?

The port ought to happen.

At work, I use NT,Solaris,Linux, VMS, and something on the other end of a CICS
interface.  That is a vote for Java.  At home I use Linux and W95.  If there
was a 1.2 JDK for 
Linux; that is why I need a Sun JDK for Linux.  I have developed a 
preference for Linux at home due to economics and the futility of
pretending to know W95 due to its instability, inconsistancies and the
lack of source code. 

Please support JDK on Linux, we don't like working with Micro$oft tools, or OS.

Please please please port a fully supported jdk 
to Linux.  The Linux community boasts some of the
best developers in the world, and they could be a
real asset to Java as it matures.  Also, we'd love
to get behind any effort which gives people a 
choice other than Microsoft.  So again, please,
give us a good full set of Java tools for Linux.

I would like to see earlier availability of new
JDK developments (alphas, betas) for linux.
Right now my Java development is hampered by
the non-availability of JDK1.2B3 for linux.

I would like to add to the requests for a Javasoft full LINUX port of the JDK

Well, Sun give a little help to the Linux community
and consider porting the full JDK to Linux.

Another plea!!!

Plese JDK1.2

Wots de deal mon.  Cant u see wot de people be crying out for?

Please consider OFFICIAL support of Linux JDK/JRE/JWS.
Otherwise we will be compelled to switch to NT!

The best reason to port to Linux is since it's
open source people who get the JDK source can
explore various Linux/Java integration methods
unavialble to users of  closed platforms.
Java windowing systems java in the kernel etc.
Java device drivers. Builtin distributed java.
Builtin support for classes an serialization.
Single runtime for all java code.
Java services avialable platform wide
to all applications aka Nextstep services.

This is a huge opportunity for Sun and the 
Free software community to help each other.
I'm somewhat surpized that sun is missing the
platform which can best intergrate java.
And since Linux runs on so many platforms
switching over to java for as many os services 
as possible makes tons of sense to the Linux community.
It's too bad that legal/political 
in the Free softaware community and at sun issues  stand
in the way of progress.

please support java on linux.

When I go to download the latest JDK I would like
to see the Linux version right next to the Windows
and Solaris versions.
At work we will soon (5 months) be filling our laboratories with
Solaris boxes.  Since my software will have to run on
these boxes, I'm currently doing my Java development
on Linux.
Soon it'll be Solaris at work and Linux at home!

If it doesn't run on Linux, it's not really write 
once, run anywhere.

I think that Sun would greatly further the goal of
"Java everywhere" by porting/supporting current
JDKs on Linux. There is an enormous community of
Linux users; both seasoned and new users. Providing
the JDK on Linux would help provide alternatives to
college students who will be entering industry soon. 

Please support Linux!  You will have a much
easier time getting Linux users to use Solaris
than NT users.  I wouldn't be a UNIX user if it
wasn't for Linux.  Linux is where I learned
how to use and love UNIX.  If it weren't for
Linux, I would be a Microsoft Visual C++
programmer today.  Please Sun, help me purge
NT from my home computer!
While I will able to get a Solaris box at work,
it will be quite awhile before I can afford to
get one at home.

Yes! Thats it! A JDK for
Linux/x86/Sparc/Alpha/PPC/others including a JIT!
Would be Great!
This would give a real freedom of choice to
NC/PalmPC/anything developers.
No more Win??, Linux and Java instead!
Why dont you just make Linux the reference platform?

Linux & Java, the best choice! :)

Our students are learning java right now. What should they use at home ?
Probably M$-Windows. 
Everyday some of them leave for industry. Why should they buy Solaris if
they're used
to Microsoft ? Please, please support Java on Linux

Have you got the idea yet?  C'mon Sun - where's the response?
Don't let your marketing/legal guys run your business.  Do something that
everyone (except M$) would love you for.

My company is fully committed to Java - we have bet our future on it - BUT we
would love to see 
Sun do something serious for a Linux Java port. It is not good for us
to not trust Java on Linux. Sun could make a difference.
- Doug Marker - (Board Member of the Javalobby)
Dir of R & D
Internet Age Corp 

I second to the many others on this thread
Regards

The Java Server Does NOT work on Linux.  The SSL
stuff is all native code for which there is no
Linux equivelent.  This means that we need support
but more importantly, we need the appropriate
binaries to support SSL on Linux.
All of this could be done through third party
companies having a non-disc aggreement with Sun 
and RSA so that they could remove the burden
from Sun of supporting software for non-strategic
platforms.  I would be willing to do this if 
it is agreeable to Sun.

I have just recently started real development in Java. I to feel that the full
JDK would be a benefit to SUN, as we LINUX-ERS feel as though JAVA on anything
other than WINDOZE would be great.

Please support a Linux JDK port.

Not a bug, but a feature.
And a very important one.
Sun SHOULD support Java on Linux.

JWS on Linux = Java Works Slow?  I "attempted"
to install JWS on a PPro/200 running RH5.0.
What a joke, after spending about a week
trying to get a stable/working 3rd party port of
JDK to run on Linux I gave up.  I did get JWS
installed, but it was unbelievably slow (about 5 
minutes between selections during configuration).
We currently have 2 Sparc stations which are 
used for development, but I need fast, stable
and inexpensive web servers with Java support!!!  
Please, OFFICIALLY, release Linux compatible Java
software and development tools (JDK, JRE, JWS etc.).

It is very frustrating personally and professionally
to have to boot out of Linux and into win95 to use 
the latest release of the JDK. It would be a great 
furtherance to Java and a service to all of the Java 
programmers who use Linux (and I know many) as their 
platform of choice if there was an *official* Sun 
port of all of the java tools to this excellent OS.

Steve Byrne, call your office.

Seriously,
This is important.  We're the best chance you've got.

<ditto>Please make linux an officially supported platform</ditto>
I timed the compile time for one of my projects:
Sun JDK on WinNT4.0 on Pentium-II/233/32MB ------- 51 secs
Blackdown JDK on Linux 2.0.34 on AMDK6/233/48MB --  3 secs
Plaintiff rests...

Support of JDK 1.2 SWING etc tested and without
necessary patching for Linux would be a good thing.
(Has SUN a similar monopolistic policy like Microsoft :-) ??)

Hi,
just my $2E-2: please support the idea of an official, up-to-date free JDK on
Linux too. This would make Linux _and_ Java even better development tools.
And keep up the good work you folks at Sun.

I love Java but I hate to move to Windozze to develop
java appliacation. I love Linux, I love Java.
Do not make me hate SUN :-)

I agree with other comments made here - please
provide official support for JDK (or at least JRE)
under Linux.
WorkShop (or similar) would be VERY handy.

As a long time proponent of platform independence
(vs. just portability), Java is an outstanding 
opportunity to make the OS a commodity and concentrate
development efforts on actual software. To make this
a reality, we need to be able to move our Java apps
(especially Java Web Server) to other OS' and not
only have them run but have them run well. I've
currently got JWS running under WinNT but would 
much prefer moving it to Linux. I cannot do that, 
however, until the JDK supports native threads for
Linux. As a bonus, support for 1.2 and the JIT would
complete my wish list.

Please port JDK and friends to Linux.

Such a large and willing developer segment must not 
be ignored!  Java is the only thing I want to use 
that has better support in the Windows realm.  
Failing to support major operating systems places 
major doubts on Sun's commitment to the 
Run-Anywhere concept.  

Please support  Linux ports of all Sun Java products which incorporate native
code.

We are developing Java applications that use
Solaris as a front-end and DB2/400 on the back-end.
We develop all Java software using Linux.  An
`official' JDK port would greatly enhance our 
ability and continuing support for Java, and as 
well help Sun create inroads within an 
exponentially expanding market.
For everyone's sake, you already have the base
JVM/JDK code.  Instead of having us create these
from your specs, it would be SO much easier to
just change appropriate values, and library
references and create a `true' Linux JDK.
Please, and thanks.

I'm in favor of an official and complete JDK port

It would sure be nice to write 100% java
Apps for linux :)

a94erisu@student.his.se
I would be very happy if there were support on JDK for Linux.
Erik

A JDK and JRE for Linux would be *really* nice; in addition, 
it would turn some of the development tide back toward Unix
and its various clones, thus possibly building more of a 
market for Solaris (esp. on x86)

We develop a commercial hardware product with 
Linux in it. We would love to use Java on it 
including JNDI (Java Naming and Directory 
Interface).

Porting JDK and JRE are be beneficial to
all the developers who currently use
SPARCs and have home PCs

It's the only way to use postGresQL with JDBC!

Add my 100% support for the idea of an official JDK and JRE
for Linux.  Not only would I use it personally, but professionally
as well.  Come on Sun, this one has got to be a no-brainer.

Java can give Linux what it misses: general-purpose applications. 
Linux provides a solid base for a robust virtual machine, and there are a lot
of Linux people out there to improve it. 

one apon a time...for a very brief moment, I believed in sun, I thought they
were being altruistic, trying to help out the computing comunity...stupid me! 
Would there be any profit in sun porting to linux..or anything other than their
platform(Solaris)??  Thye port to Win95/NT, but that's because they need the
large base of PC users/programmers.  If they didn't who'd use Java??  Those who
use NEWS?

Somehow he did it. William H. Gates succeeded in felling the preliminary
injunction against the bundling of IE and Windows (sorry, -doze). Today the
official sales of WIN98 have begun. Now there is little to prevent the 'ALL
NEW' Win98 'technology' from spreading even further. Surely JDK on LINUX will
not be THE killer-app against Windows, but it could at least help a little. And,
 who knows, perhaps it will help A LOT! Isn't this worth a try?

Support our jehad against Bill Gates.

Come on listen to the developers ... 
w/o them Java would not be what it is today
the way to make it even better is to increase 
the developer base and the way to do that is ...
SUPORT LINUX!!

It should be a no-brainer. Linux doe NOT compete with Solaris.

This would be great!!!
We too could develop with the latest JDK!!

I find it hard to believe that there has been no response to this request
 or even acknowledgement of it for the entire duration of this RFE.
 Is Java Linux support going to go the way of the NC?  Sun didn't put it's
weight
 behind the NC (as such, NC World web publication is history), so is this a
pattern?
  It seems that the old saying IS true that 'ignore it and it will go away'.  
  WAKE UP SUN, at least SAY something to the mobs of people who are requesting
this
 RFE, or they will go away.  Is this what you really want?  
(Does SUN even read this stuff?  I mean, we're up to 267K of text
that has to be downloaded, doesn't that say something about the support
 base?)

What can I add to what has already been written?
I have a modest suggestion for your consideration:
if you offered to give a group of linux developers
the source code to the Solaris version of the JDK,
with a clear agreement that the source code was *not*
to be divulged, they might be able to do the port 
without any further resources from Sun.  Linux and 
solaris aren't that different.

support Linux, please

There must be an alternative to windows.
Either provide support for LINUX as cheap client
OR provide an inexpensive version of SOLARIS
free like MS Internet Explorer which can
host applications based on SOLARIS or JAVA
servers.

Well Scott, you win. JDK && Linux will not 
be competing with SUN (Never did, though).
In fact, another contract, i know,is moving from 
linux development/sun deployment to 
NT development/deployment. 
Now the talk is to move to vj++. 
but that is not a real threat. Is it?

Linux on x86 machines is gaining support throughout
the world and is probably the strongest challenge
to Windows.  With support for Java on Linux, I
could envision a world dominated by Java applications
running on good old Linux/UNIX embraced by the
masses.  Let's make that dream come true :-)

I *COULD* work with JDK 1.2 if I wanted to spend
$100 for a 32 bit extension for a 16 bit shell for
an 8 bit operating system developed for 4 bit computers
by a 2 bit company that can't stand one bit of
competition.   But that would be silly now wouldn't it?
Or I could buy a sparc, but that would be expensive,
and for a hobbyist it is out of my ballpark.  Linux is
a viable development platform, I use it both at home
and at work, as do some 7-10 million others.  Please
support this.  BTW: I couldn't help but notice that
Sun is part of linux international and was thinking
about endorsing linux as a valid os on sparcs, maybe
you should endorse linux port of the jdk as well.

Please port JDK1.2 to Linux

Add MkLinux and LinuxPPC support as well.

I can't afford Solaris x86, so I'm currently
forced to use Windows if I need the newest
Java-tools. It would be soo nice if Linux
would be an option...

Linux is several times faster than NT when installed 
on identical PCs. JDK1.1.6 is available (sunsite.unc.edu)
But, if you wan't to really fight Microsoft, do not
worry about Solaris on X86, just have the latest 
in Java available on Linux at the same time as 
NT and Solaris. Or, just put the Solaris code out
for someone in the Linux Community to port!!
Please do not let NT take over. 

Reading these comments, I'm reminded of a story I
heard about a fomous Wall Street investor who bought
ConEd (New York electric utility) bonds after the
stock market crash in '29. To those who thought he
was crazy for taking such a risk he responded,
"Nobody is going to turn the lights out on 8 million
people." And, of course, they didn't. Well, nobody
is going to turn the lights out on Linux and, I don't
believe, anybody can turn the lights out on Java either.
In the long run, assuming Sun doesn't play ball, we'll
go on without them just as sure as we'll be here when
Microsoft is a much smaller company which has lost
its lock on the OS market.