Built Java Plug-in in 64-bit and support 64-bit VM on Windows/Linux/Solaris on AMD64.
  xxxxx@xxxxx   2004-05-26
We will support Java Plugin/Java webstart on AMD64 arch on both Window and Linux platform.
Posted Date : 2008-10-13 19:32:26.0

N/A

64-bit support is deferred to a future release.
  xxxxx@xxxxx   2005-06-01 21:40:27 GMT
This RFE has fianaly been comitted to the dolphin (JDK 1.7) release.
Posted Date : 2007-01-16 22:20:04.0

We have not only commit this RFE to JRE 7, but also JRE 6 update release.

The date for JRE 6 update release which has this 64bit JRE support will be early 2009.
Posted Date : 2008-04-09 16:57:04.0

Just an update......
The development/testing of the 64-bit plugin is underway and will be added to JDK6, sometime after the 6u11 release. Stay tuned!
Posted Date : 2008-10-10 21:56:24.0

We are targeting to support this feature in JRE 6u12, we will support Java Plugin/Java webstart on AMD64 arch on both Window and Linux platform.

On linux, we will support Java plugin only on Firefox 3 64bit browser, due to 64bit Firefox is not available on Solaris OS yet, we won't support 64bit Java plugin and Java webstart on Solaris platform at this moment.
Posted Date : 2008-10-13 19:31:42.0

a new platform to support, Microsoft is working on .NET...

Please fix for Tiger. We certainly won't appreciate having to wait 18 months for a fix that's probably trivial on Sun's part.

I'm running FC3 x86_64  on amd64 (s939) msi nforce4 mobo and cannot use java in my browsers.

Running Fedora Core 3 x86_64 on a Sun W1100z.  Firefox is 64bit.
Sun Java 64-bit version 1.5.0_02 does not include the browser plugin as it's 32 bit counterpart has done for years.   Hoping you'll provide this plugin functionality very soon.  It's a major drawback for the Sun AMD/Opterion platform not to do so!

I'm running a 64 bit GNU/Linux distribution on an AMD 64 processor and I am quite happy with it, except that I can't develop and properly view Java applets. 
I believe that you should do your best to support this architecture now, since with the EMT64 extensions provided by Intel, the number of 64bit desktop computers, will increase significantly and more people will have the same problem.
have 

"64-bit support is deferred to a future release - 2005-06-01"
This is ridiculous! 64-bit Linux is almost 2 years old! Even *MS* has had 64-bit Windohs for months! 

Your Product Managers must be living in caves! Bah!

I would second Tiger support

We're waiting for the new java plugin support for the AMD64 platform.

I'll agree with this one as well.  Ubuntu has native firefox builds in AMD64 format.   Currently the only workaround for folks using a 64-bit version of the browser on AMD64 Linux is to use BLACKDOWN Java.  

Funny that Sun can't provide Java but a COMPETITOR can... 

I'm running GNU/Linux on an AMD64 processor and I've still not found an official Sun java plugin for this arch. Don't you think it's time to release it?

Please provide the plugin ASAP. Linux on AMD64 is gaining more on momentum and people are getting more and more annoyed about not being able to use a browser plugin. This is the kind of thing people remember (meant in a bad way...):

Can the plugin be built if we build the jdk from source ?

Do it!
It is essantial strategie to have Java on Desktop and in Browsers. By the way, also fix these applets missbehaviors and bugs. We do earn money with that sort of java-tech.

Sun is partners with Microsoft http://www.sun.com/software/javaenterprisesystem/sun_microsoft_interop.pdf

and AMD http://www.sun.com/amd/

The AMD x64 chipset is not only used in servers but also in desktop workstations. Sun has announced support for the Windows OS (read amd64 bit edition) on Sun hardware.

The Sun Ultra 20 ->workstation<-
http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra20/index.jsp

claims support for Solaris 10 and Windows amd64.

What is going to happen when JDK 1.6 is released and ultra 20 owners happily download it only to find it is not fully supported on SUN hardware?

It's now Sept. 10, any word on the plugin/javaws for the AMD64 Mustang? 

Windows XP x64 is a desktop OS... plain and simple. The demand WILL come for the 64-bit webstart and plugin... blackdown.org already has it for Linux. We need it... like yesterday.

Please read this article from Microsoft- it explains the 64-bit OS/Browser "state of the nation" so to speak.

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/01/12/351808.aspx

Because there are few 64-bit plugins available, Windows x64 ships with the IE 32bit as the default!

The 64-bit IE is useless without plugins. I need it for ongoing development now. As are others in the community who are working on 64bit web applications. Until Sun makes the plugin, we are all stuck in 32bit land. Sun, please help us out.

I know, Sept. 13th, that's what I get for copy/pasting ;) from my other post on java.net on the same topic

64-bit Linux is almost 2 years old!
amd is the leader in 64bit x86 processor

64-bit Linux is almost 2 years old!
amd is the leader in 64bit x86 processor

Webstart is essential for 64-bit Windows. Is Sun really considering not having this in Mustang? 64-bit Windows may not be mainstream now, but in a year or two it will be - future desktop machines WILL be 64-bit. 

Will we seriously have to wait for Dolphin for this? What's that, another 3 years away? I really don't want to have to tell customers two years down the track that they need to run a 32-bit version of the JVM on their 64-bit machines. That certainly doesn't leave a good impression. 

64-bit needed

I noticed that the title of this RFE only mentions the "plug-in" that's missing. We also need "webstart" included. These two items are common JRE distributions... so I don't think that I'm going out on a limb by asking for webstart too... it's been mentions several times in various posts, but I just want to make sure that this is also included so that we don't have to create another RFE for webstart.

Part of general consideration for a "write once run anywhere" system ought to be a FULL jre  - including webstart and java applet plug-in for 64bit windows.
Why _not_ implement this request asap and give us what we need to win new business

Sun is really shooting themselves in the foot here.  This clearly shows that Java does not run everywhere that's relevant and that it is not keeping up with the times in this regard.  Why produce such a bad impression?

you are going to loose so many clients...

you are loosing so many developers...

Is there an ETA on this? I just installed x64 with latest mustang and oops, doesn't even autorun jars, let alone browser plugin etc...  serious problem since I use webstart for much deployment and developers usually prefer to test what they are deploying.

Of course it would be better if SUN could make the x64 version of Web Start and Java Plug-in, but how about the Java source code license? Isn't that an incentive to "just do it" ?

At least make the source code for the plugin and webstart easily available so someone can complile them.

Duh.

This is a must fix issue. Java applets and plugins must be available for AMDx86_64 systems. What is the use of 64 bit processing power.
I run all 64 bit apps on my system. You are not doing the right thing for the AMD community good.
I run FC4 amd64. The only useful browser is firefox without support for this the browsing experience it not good.

I consider this vital, esp. since we're moving completely to x64.

Win XP64 is a DESKTOP OS for desktops and workstations. 

We need FULL Java support on this!

Win XP64 is a DESKTOP OS for desktops and workstations. 

We need FULL Java support on this!

Win XP64 is a DESKTOP OS for desktops and workstations. 

We need FULL Java support on this!

lacking webstart is a serious setback. At least OpenJNLP provides an alternative...
I'm using Mustang on a Debian AMD64

I really can't believe you haven't done this especially for Solaris which have been 64bit on the desktop for years

amd64 is getting serious especially on linux.
More and more users use it for their desktop systems, the longer you wait the less innovative SUN's image will become.

I'd like to have the 64bit plugin too.

Webstart and plugins to support 64-bit browsers are needed immediately. Currently the main uptakers of 64-bit OS's are developers, so for a start there's a reason to compile these in 64-bit, but also as 64-bit CPU's are on the cusp of taking the largest selling volume in desktop PC's. As sales of 64-bit CPU pc's increase so will installations of 64-bit OS's (if the consumers are aware of it or not) and as our customers and yours start failing to run java apps/applets you are going to disenchant more and more people.

For gods sake just take a look at the submit date on this: 14th Jan 2003. 2003 folks! In a few months it will have been 3 years!!! "request for enhancement" should read "urgent requirement to get with the times".
64-bit CPU's = old news.
64-bit OS's = old news.
"not a priority enhancement" = old excuse no longer washing.

Where is Java for the 64-bit platform - Windows and Linux? When can we expect it? Will it be before the 128-bit platform starts or even sooner!
AriesPAMD64

This shoud be fixed as soon as possible. The submitter before me is really right. Why is this taking so incredibly long to make it happen? I could understand if all the 64-bit OS's would be still in beta with yet-to-be-released 64-bit cpu's. But that is not the case. Both Intel and AMD are selling huge numbers of 64-bit capable cpus and all the major Linux distributors have a 64-bit version available. Also Microsoft is even trading in 32-bit licenses for a 64-bit Windows XP version. And yet you are sticking with your version that 64-bit OS's are only used for servers so you don't have to bundle webstart and plugin. Is this so much efford to port those two parts?

Now we are stuck with using a 32bit browser only because there is no java plugin.

Please, please, fix this.

Please release a 64 bit version soon.  

I discovered that 5, release 5 has been out since the 20th of October. It still doesn't contain the plugin.

Could you at least have the decency to place a note near the AMD64 downloads that the plugin is still not included? It will save you bandwidth, if you need an argument _you_ can relate to.

To me, Sun Java on AMD64 is turning out to be an ever growing disappointment.

Please, I nedd it for a work in progress!!!!

"64-bit support is deferred to a future release - 2005-06-01"
This is ridiculous! 64-bit Linux is almost 2 years old! Even *MS* has had 64-bit Windows for months!

64 bit browser support is needed like yesterday! Hello?

Please, provide support for 64-bit browsers under Windows XP  64-bit Edition.

I run  a duel Opteron, Linux based, DESKTOP system.  Please add webstart and plug-in support.  It's tough to develop webstart apps if you don't have webstart.

I'm fed up with 32 bit IE; Please, provide support for 64 bit browsers under Windows XP  64bit Edition.

we want java plugin for win X64 platform

RFE Monitors; CAN YOU PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS
There are growing numbers of 64-bit system users and the evaluation "..deferred to a future release." is no longer valid as releases have come and gone since that statement.
Can you please clarify Sun's position with regards to supporting this technology.

This isreally non-responsive. X86_64 machines are becoming increasingly common, and this RFE has been outstanding for over 18 months. It's particularly ironic, since SUN itself is shipping Opteron-based servers now. I thought SUN was supposed to be a technology leader!

yes i need this too :( plz fix it

Please support our 64-bit OS community... I visit alot of Java Web Based Sites and we all know 64 bit is the future.

I am very disappointed that I am unable to use the Sun Java Plug-In in 64-bit browsers - support for this feature would be very welcome!

64-Bit Java needed...

Java is a neccessity in modern web browsing and we really need a 64-Bit plugin, helps us out here!

64-bit, we need it!

The 64-Bit Community is getting bigger every day - its a shame if you keep ignoring the need for a 64-Bit Java plugin...

A 64-bit browser plug-in is long overdue!

This should never have been deferred! Please release a 64-bit browser plug-in now!

Please, provide support for 64-bit browsers under Windows XP  64-bit Edition!  I expected it months ago, but was disappointed to find out it did not work after wasting a lot of time trying.

This is available for 64bit Sun/Solaris installs.  Is it more then a compile and QA for a Linux version?

There is already a version for 64 bit Sun/Solaris.  Is it more then just a compile and QA?

Surely needed.

64bit browser plugin support seems very simple and would be most excellent BEFORE 6/05.
Thanks

I would love 64-bit version ASAP.

Yes, please! What'a a Fedora Core 4 64-bit user to do otherwise?

The AMD64 platform mindshare is likely to boom. Please consider developing a browser plugin.

would like to make use of my 64bit system, and almost everything is given, 64bit java not

Could you tell us which "future release" this has been deferred to? An ETA maybe?

I am not certain that this can even be called an enhancement.  Since you offered this functionality with the 32bit version we expect that same function with the 64bit.  Anyone who develops using 64bit would want to port all his software over to that platform or at least test it for compatibility.  

m

Is there anything new about the x64-bit Java. We need it in Windows x64 anf Linux x64!!!!!!

AriesPAMD64

i am running xp x64 and would like x64 version of java to be included in any of my browsers please

See above.

^^^

i would very much like a 64bit plugin for my Browser.  It would make it a million times better!

I agree with everybody else that is almost unbelievable that a company like SUN, who has been touting the benifits of 64-bit computing for more than a decade, has dropped the ball in this case.  Is that what SUN has come to?  A company that can't even port to the current cutting-edge hardware platform?  Is Sun merely rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic for here on out?

Thad Beier
Hammerhead Productions

Since you stopped Microsoft from including Java in their OS, you [sun] are our only option!!!

64 Bit web experience is lacking because this plugin in missing, especially on Windows.

Please support 64 Bit Plugin for Windows.

Please, provide support for 64-bit browsers under Windows XP  64-bit Edition.

Please... I really need a plugin for AMD 64 bit IE...

Please... it is surely a pain to have to call up a 32 bit browser when Java is needed...

Is that really takes that long for SUN people ?

Please fix it for Tiger and the next releases as well. 64 bit is a reality. Please accept it

Please fix it for Tiger and the next releases as well. 64 bit is a reality. Please accept it

We want our 64bit Java plugin to work and i want to be able to view java games and chatrooms. Without it browsers will be useless

Please fix the Java plugin so we can use it with our browsers

using xp x64.. with amd 400+ very happy with everything.. but cant work... no java support...no applets... my only downfall... PLEASE give us 64 bit support.....we really need... after all.. 64bit is moving faster than you probably think.....

64bit support should be here and now.

We are running Firefox with RHEL4, and we would certainly appreciate if SUN would release the 64-bit JRE plugin as soon as possible.

Is there any indication this will be available in Mustang?  Is this something that could reasonably be contributed to Mustang by the user community, or does it depend on major changes in the 64-bit VM?

need

64 bit java needed

java64 needed now

I personally need 64bit java plugin for the web sites I am working with and visiting continuously.

need 64 bit java for win xp x64
tks

C'mon, 64-bit is taking off, don't get left behind.

64-bit is the FUTURE
We will all need this plugin sooner or later

Yep 64-bit is for real, right now, please can we have this plugin chz

Being that we are slowly shifting to 64 bits...and SUN is a major proponent of Java. I would think it not helpful for Java's popularity if SUN delays the release of a 64 bit plugin.

Sun's is loosing it's great brand, because it's so long when win x64 released, and still not java plugin available.

I would appreciate 64 Bit support

Gimme gimme please

Cyc would love it

That would really be nice and prepare for Vista 64 bit :)

64 bit java important

support

I do appreciate 64 Bit support

Please add support.

Please add support.

Thank you!

Thank YOU very much!

please add support for AMD64

windows 64 has been out for a while I am shocked that there is still no support from this end

We NEED THIS !!! :)

Please hurry with this fix. Time is wastin...

Sooner than later please

Dear java, miss you hope to see you soon

Hmm, is it just me or has the description of the RFE changed sometime? I'm sure it used to read "64-bit AMD Opteron" and now it reads "64-bit VM on Windows/Linux/Solaris on AMD64".
So, someone at Sun has spent enough time reading the comments to change the description but how about a comment on progress here?? Tell us what is going on, don't just change the description!!!

shouldn't this bug be in the "top 25 bugs" ?
as of today with 228 votes it would be position # 4 ?
...
the "bug"  is open since 14-JAN-2003 ?!?!?!  does Sun have a "blind spot" here ?

ah, oops, it's in the top 25 rfe's (#10) ... even though it should be in the "features forgotten to implement" section ;-(

This is a simple fix for your smart engineers! Please release a 64 bit plugin!

Please, release a plug-in for 64-bit browsers! Very soon, a 64-bit build of Firefox Deer Park (1.5) will be available, and a 64-bit version of Internet Explorer was included with Windows XP 64-bit Edition. I am sure Linux and Solaris users would also be pleased to see a 64-bit plug-in. Do it now!

running gentoo linux amd64

this bug has been open for awhile now, it's time to do something about it!

Please, I'm begin' ya... Ya gotta help me out wit dis... what's it gonna take? Whatta ya want from me? An arm? A leg? I think I still got one good one left that the oil companies didn't get from me...

The 64 bit version of the plugin would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

feel's strange that you are so slow to react new tecnologies? bug id was submitted 14 of jan 2003!

I've an AMD 64 with Linux.
Please, release the java 64 bit plugin.

I would appreciate if SUN would release a 64-bit JRE plugin.

64 bit is the way to go, let's see some support for it!

64 bit java on linux will be great but what would be even better
whould be 64 bit java on freebsd! if sun dose this they would have my heart forever!

64-bit support is desperately needed!!!

When is this going to come out?  I'm tired of switching to gentoo every time I want to browse.

Its almost 2006

amd rules please fix

Wating for Linux 64-bit JRE plugin for almost a year. Why it is so difficult???

please support amd64 firefox plugin in java

eh, skip that last vote, i'll just go run windows like everyone else...

NOt only the "plug-in" that's missing. We also need "webstart" .

Running Ubuntu on amd64. Please, ship javaws and the plugin!!!

Jung-hoon
I need jvm plugin for amd64.
work with java. although my company platform is win32,
my pc & hobby are debian pure64 platform, so to play
java.com games, web links by jnlp, very difficult.

Jung-hoon
I need jvm plugin for amd64.
work with java. although my company platform is win32,
my pc & hobby are debian pure64 platform, so to play
java.com games, web links by jnlp, very difficult.

over 2 years for a single compilation??? That can't take so long. Yes, it take long to compile SUN JVMs but not this long. I am waiting for the AMD 64 support of tiger. PSE Sun hurry up.

over 2 years for a single compilation??? That can't take so long. Yes, it take long to compile SUN JVMs but not this long. I am waiting for the AMD 64 support of tiger. PSE Sun hurry up.

Please fix this with the next version of Java.
Please, please, please.
It makes my 64-bit installation of linux very painful, when I can't view applets.

Please fix this with the next version of Java.
Please, please, please.
It makes my 64-bit installation of linux very painful, when I can't view applets.

Please!!! java support for AMD64. it's one of the things i'm missing since i have my 64 bit processor.

sincerly nrayever

Please!!! java support for AMD64. it's one of the things i'm missing since i have my 64 bit processor.

sincerly nrayever

Windows 64 Bit is everyone that own's a 64 bit CPU in the x86 line of computers. We didn't buy Windows 64 to use 32 bit applications. We need Sun's expertise in providing us with the Desk Top Java for our Browsers in the 64 bit world. Don't make us have to go to Linux or Solaris for 64 bit computing. Thank You for your support

I'm distressed to learn that no JRE plugin is available for my AMD64 laptop.  According to the author of a forum posting, Sun Microsystems considers AMD64 to be a server architecture.  Interesting idea; but while my brand new laptop is nice, a server it's not.  May we have a Firefox plugin, please?  Pretty please?

I'm distressed to learn that no JRE plugin is available for my AMD64 laptop.  According to the author of a forum posting, Sun Microsystems considers AMD64 to be a server architecture.  Interesting idea; but while my brand new laptop is nice, a server it's not.  May we have a Firefox plugin, please?  Pretty please?

And the list continues to grow.

I put my vote on this aswell..xtremely important.
Otherwise I'll need to go with Blackdown.org and their plugin..

I'm also anxiously awaiting a 64-bit jre 1.5 plugin for my 64-bit fedora fc4 running my 64-bit Firefox 1.5.
SUN, are you listening??????

Win X64 support?

Let's move away from x86 and get use of those nice extra GP reg's :)

Let's use those extra GP reg's, eh? :)

Please show your report for 64-bit AMD!

Please show your report for 64-bit AMD!

Please show your report for 64-bit AMD!

tired of softlink to 1.4 plugin

Without a 64-bit plugin, I'm forced to use 32-bit IE at Java-enabled sites.  Perhaps I should simply avoid java sites....  BUILD A 64-bit PLUGIN!

Yes, 64bit plugin is needed!

Yes, 64bit plugi n and development is needed!

It's only been 3 years, guys, come on.  Maybe by the time 128-bit systems start to become standard, we will have a 64-bit plugin.

Need this to run Java on Deer Park browser. Please wake up to 64-bit!

The future is here. Do it now!

Java = 64-bit = progress

I really think its strange how sun violates their own principals, write once run everywhere.

I hope run well :)

how i must dll it ?

64bits wellllllllll

Yes, need plugin for Windows XP x64

Running 64 bits windows & linux - so please...
  do not wait until introduction of AMD 128 CPUs...

From http://weblogs.java.net/blog/ray_gans/archive/2006/01/where_we_are_wi.html it looks like the mustang beta will be release in Feb. It looks like we will have to wait until 2008 for 64bit support!

come on guys!!!!! better wake up!!!!
can't wait till 2008
just run a compiler!

time won't stop, so develop java64bit guys, it's a bit of the future

64-bit plugins

please release 64-bit support 

it's about damn time

64-bit is here to stay.  get with the program

i can't do my damn homework at home.  do you want to be responsible for adversely affecting the education of America's youth?

WANTED: Java Plugin for Linux AMD64.
As sysadmin I really don't care java, but users want me to install the plugin to browse the web.

WE need it!!

I also would like to see 64-bit plugin support for Windows 64-bit (XP and 2003).
Justin Malyn

why is it so difficult to get anyone to do things properly when doing 64 bit versions. It is not unreasonable to expect equal functionality is it

The future is X64 we need support.

There seems to be a perception that JAVA is slow, perhaps 64bit support may indicate this is a concern at SUN.  Maybe not...

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your are making a lot of unhappy end users -- PLEASE FIX!!

It has been a long time we are waiting to be able to use a native 64-bit browser, but without your support, 64-bit browsers are useless... 

It has been a long time we are waiting to be able to use a native Windows XP x64 browser, but without your support, 64-bit browsers are useless... 

It has been a long time we are waiting to be able to use a native 64-bit browser, but without your support, 64-bit browsers are useless... 

It has been a long time we are waiting to be able to use a native 64-bit browser, but without your support, 64-bit browsers are useless... 

It has been a long time we are waiting to be able to use a native 64-bit browser, but without your support, 64-bit browsers are useless... 

Running X2 on a WinXPx64.  Firefox is 64bit.
Sun Java 64-bit version 1.5.0_02 does not include the browser plugin as it's 32 bit counterpart has done for years.   Hoping you'll provide this plugin functionality very soon.  It's a major drawback for the Sun AMD/Opterion platform not to do so!

I don't understand why this is marked as RFE and not a BUG. Having or not having the plugin in the fully released 64-bit JRE is clearly something that should NOT be questioned! More and more users are getting 64-bit computers, many of them are Java developers and Sun is clearly killing the Java platform this way!
As a veteran Java evangelist, I was shocked to find out that my new 64-bit linux machine can run anything but Java applets! I was even more shocked when I saw the submission date of this bug.
What happened? Now that .NOT is around the corner, Sun gave up and don't care about Java anymore?!?
(L.S.)

It has been a long time I see people asking for it. Please don't delay few months more, we rely on you.

It has been a long time I see people asking for it. Please don't delay few months more, we rely on you.

If I don't get this plugin soon, I will not purchase any more Sun equipment.

This is ridiculous. Has java been abandoned on Linux? Our company is only buying 64 bit machines these days. Thank god there are other java implementations around.

Well, this bug is more than three years old, is it possible? After three years there's still no implementation? WHAT!? Please, do it.

It's been two years, where is the 64-bit plugin?  32-bit systems are the 8086s of years past.  How on earth is technology going to move forward if you're not going support it?  You'd be hard pressed today to find someone selling a new desktop PC that does not support the AMD64 instruction set.

Are you expecting the open source community to hijack Java and write their own JVM and call it OpenJava, thus having us dictate what and where Java goes?

We have frozen  development on Java applications until the 64-bit platform is fully supported.   We'll stick wtih C++ and GTK which is fully supported on ALL platforms.  

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its now Feb 28 2006 PLEASE!

It's time to take a look at this...  3 years is WAY too long to wait to fix something this obvious.

Wow, I can't beleive this hasn't been fixed with 1.5 let alone 16.

what a shame...

Blackdown has an JRE 1.4 AMD64 version with browser plugin.
Seems like SUN does'nt even care?
I will give SUN one more month, and if no AMD64 plugin we will develop future applications in an environment that is more proffessionally maintained.
I am SO undescribingly dissapointed...!!! :( Shame on you SUN!

This is very disappointing.  I built my AMD64 (dual core!) system for around $1,500 with parts from Frys, a few months ago.  I have tried both Fedora 4 32 bit and Gentoo 64 bit Linux, and the 64 bit system is far faster.  If Sun's decision is based on an assumption that AMD64 systems will mostly be servers, all I can say is that I have a $1,500 AMD64 bit desktop system, and I never want to go back to 32 bit.  Finally, the whole reason I went with Java ten years ago was the promise of "write once, run anywhere".  Java is the heart and soul of Sun, this is huge.  Not making 4802695 a top priority will make XEROX's decision to let Jobs and Woz roam their r&d department and try out all their stuff twenty years ago look like a minor lapse in judgement.  In this case, the network is not the computer, look at the computer just this once, this is the time to think INSIDE the box.  Doofuses!!!  When are people going to learn, you can not ignore your core competency - and it isn't Solaris!!! That rant done, I am going to write my first C++ program in over 10 years.  Just one Sun Certified Java developer moving on....  who cares.   Drop in the bucket or.... ?

This is very disappointing.  I built my AMD64 (dual core!) system for around $1,500 with parts from Frys, a few months ago.  I have tried both Fedora 4 32 bit and Gentoo 64 bit Linux, and the 64 bit system is far faster.  If Sun's decision is based on an assumption that AMD64 systems will mostly be servers, all I can say is that I have a $1,500 AMD64 bit desktop system, and I never want to go back to 32 bit.  Finally, the whole reason I went with Java ten years ago was the promise of "write once, run anywhere".  Java is the heart and soul of Sun, this is huge.  Not making 4802695 a top priority will make XEROX's decision to let Jobs and Woz roam their r&d department and try out all their stuff twenty years ago look like a minor lapse in judgement.  In this case, the network is not the computer, look at the computer just this once, this is the time to think INSIDE the box.  Doofuses!!!  When are people going to learn, you can not ignore your core competency - and it isn't Solaris!!! That rant done, I am going to write my first C++ program in over 10 years.  Just one Sun Certified Java developer moving on....  who cares.   Drop in the bucket or.... ?

sorry, posted twice when it told me to log in... got all worked up...

I meed Java for my AMD64 with firefox. Please solve the problem

Javaplugin for 64bit is missing???

I've an AMD 64 with Linux.
Please, release the java 64 bit plugin.

We're waiting for the new java plugin support for the AMD64 platform.

64-bit Linux is almost 2 years old!
amd is the leader in 64bit x86 processor

The egg is going to be on Sun's face when they release JDK 1.6 without 64bit support yet now have three AMD64 based workstation offerings. Imagine Sun's new slogan, "Sun's AMD64 workstations support  64bit applications as long as they are not written in Java!!!"

This is just getting ridiculous. 1/14/2003? It's 3/18/2006 !!! Windows Vista 64-bit will be widely used by the end of this year, will Sun still consider it only used on servers?

I am using a  AMD64 System and need 64Bit capabale Java Plug-in

I believe that multi-core 64bit desktops are the way of the future...  I just purchased mine at a very reasonable price.  I am quite disappointed that Sun's support for the Java on this platform is lacking.

As motherboards with AMD Athlon64 continue to be bought and placed into service as desktops, it will become harder and harder to ignore us as our population mounts. As another post mentioned, 64 bits is NOT experimental or server only !!!!  Lansdale, PA

We need this for our new project, so we can decide what plataform to chose.

Really want this so we can start doing work on 64-bit platforms as media centers.  This has held up a lot of stuff.  This has put back the project a considerable time as we feel that its not worth investing in Windows XP32 and then switching to XP64.  We also wanted to use XP64 with Windows server editions and build on Microsoft Navision.

The lack of a 64-bit plugin makes us wary of  Sun as a development base.  It feels proprietary.  On a personal note I was going to buy some Sun shares but this put me off.  When I saw how well Java + Sun supported XML I thought it could be a world beater but everything seems to be in limbo.

Very disappointed.

Mark

Here's another vote.  I do development on Suse 64-bit platform.  I'd like to see the java plug in for my browser available in 64-bit.

Dual-CPU AMD Opteron running Fedora Core 5 x86_64 and home-made Linux from sources. Where can I download the source code so I can compile a plug-in for 64-bit Firefox?!

Please include support for java plugins in linux

Please include support for AMD64 and linux

FWIW, I've been using JDK 5 and JDK 6 for quite a while without problems on Linux/AMD64 in Konqueror. Konqueror does not require a Java plugin. All you have to do is point it to $JAVA_HOME.

I love Deer Park Alpha2 and wish it could handle 64 bit Java on Windows XP Pro x64.

This is one of the few remaining deficiencies on FreeBSD/amd64.  We really need a 64-bit version of the java plugin.

Um - I can't believe it.... Java SE 6 isn't going to support x64 either!
http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/install/system-configurations.html

Redhat 4.0 includes 64bit Firefox with it.  I don't want to have to uninstall the standard 64bit version and install the 32bit one so that Java will work !!
Please add a 64bit plugin for Java.

Redhat 4.0 includes 64bit Firefox with it.  It is very important that I have Java present in my production environment for viewing important documentation.

Please add a 64bit plugin for browsers with Java.  I can't believe that this is not a standard option now that 64bit OS's are a current standard - why would we want to go back to 32bit when we can harness the power of the 64bit programs ?

Pleeeeeeease do it!

We need it!

We need it!

hi!

Need java for x64, come on guys!!!

I would be very pleased to use x64 platform with Sun Java :)

I would be very pleased to use x64 platform with Sun Java :)

I would be very pleased to use x64 platform with Sun Java :)

I would be very pleased to use x64 platform with Sun Java :)

still desperatly needing it !!!

Can\t you at least give us an eta for the 64 bit plugin - please please - I know many who are waiting for it!

64-bit needed!! 

I'm sure that my company is not the only one to stop buying 32 bit computers. If you don't produce a 64 bit version of the Java Plugin, we won't be able to use our new computers to run our own software! (Who thought this was a good idea?)

Do it please, future is 64bit.

I think that this RFE should be a bug. For me, as tha owner of an AMD 64bit laptop THIS IS A SEVERE BUG. I am a Java developer. I was working regularly on Linux since 2001. but since the end of 2004, when I bought my AMD machine, I'm back working on Linux. FIX IT NOW, PLEASE !!!

Sorry, I mean that I'm back working on Windows

Ok, I'll halt all my java develoment. Apparently sun can't support it.

64 bit Java please... 

Linux Workaround:

I am running a Debian AMD64 Etch installation and encountered this trouble myself.   The workaround I am currently using is to maintain a 32-bit chroot and install Firefox and the 32-bit Java browser plugin there.  I only use the 32-bit browser.

Suffice to say this is a bit ugly.  Native 64-bit support would definitely be nice.

64-bit mozilla, et.al. have been available for years.
64-bit Java available for years.
Even windows is available 64-bit.
Why not the 64bit plugin?

It makes installing/using Java a much more difficult, tiresome, manual, and error prone process.

It would really help us to have a 64-bit java plugin for windows on amd64 bit platforms

No more java for my new computer with Linux then..

poor poor sun (a really bad support)

Come on! Fix this!

I'm giving another vote for adding support for amd64. This request is 3 years old now - come on!

WAKE UP CALL! 64BIT DESKTOPS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS NOW!!!

um... this is REALLY ridiculous!  I just downloaded the most recent amd64 1.5.07 jdk update.. and still no javaws/plugin!!!  I see that this bug is "open" since 2003? 

So basically,   I can run all of my PC on amd64 (linux, database, all apps etc), even the netbeans ide runs great, but I can't use javaws or the java plugin with the 64bit java..   

I'm reduced to installing the i586 version as well, and linking my firefox to that plugin, and running the javaws from that version.  Probably a stupid question, but WHY???  All our new desktop PCs are AMD64 procssor based, NOT servers here (those are more opteron, or multprocessor based, but some are amd64 of course).  

cheers... we love java.. but there is this new DESKTOP platform out there guys.. and you aren't supporting it  fully!!!

I've just upgraded to an AMD64 processor and I'm amazed to find this isn't properly supported.  This really should be considered a high priority fix.

I thught that JAVA was all about portability !
But it does't seem to be 100% portable on my amd64 box.
Please provide the support for java plug-in and javaws.

Please create this plugin for 64-bit AMD opteron

Running Fedora Core 5 on AMD 64.  Would appreciate the ability to run Java in my 64-bit browser

Chalk up another vote for either releasing an AMD64 plugin for LInux, or open-sourcing Java so that the Linux community can do the coding for you, Sun.

I've been running 64-bit linux on the desktop for well over 2 years, now. But I'm stuck running a 32-bit browser because there still isn't a 64-bit Java plug-in. I thought that Sun and AMD had a great relationship -- so why is Sun ignoring the AMD64 platform?

From 14 Jan 2003 - its been almost 3 years since developers has been requesting for java plugin support on 64bit AMD. The response fron SUN has been hapless. 
Please provide this asap.

Please supply this functionality soon.  Clearly you see the importance of this architecture, please follow through and make it a first-class system.  Perhaps doing so will convince Adobe to also provide Flash support!

x86_64 is the soon-to-be-successor of the x86 platform, so if you want to keep WebStart alive, please support WebStart on x86_64 for Mustang.

Recent convert to AMD64 - astonished to find no Java Browser Plugin for IE64 available - shame on you after
all this time - laggards!

pleeeeaze!!!!

Perhaps when Java is open source, other developers will supply this feature that Sun seems uninterested in providing. In the meantime, it's astonishing that you are ignoring the large number of people running 64-bit OSs.

for firefox plugin, ready http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Debian_Java_JRE/JDK_installation%2C_browser_plugin

that would be appriciated... and why does it take that long??

I am really, really surprised by this.  I recently bought a Turion 64 based laptop and now I can't use applets.  

I develop using the Java 1.6 beta and when I noticed there was no plugin directory I thought Sun must of moved it.  It didn't even cross my mind that Sun had simply not bothered to port it.  

This is a real problem that needs fixing. 

Why can't you recompile it on linux, i have alot of problems.

Plssss

Another day, another user craving for a 64-bit java plugin. 

i want it 

we would appreciate it  pls 

please give us the 64bit java plugin for 64bit web browsers (on linux)!

Please Support 64bit Linux!

i want n  	

Built Java Plug-in in 64-bit and support 64-bit VM on Windows/Linux/Solaris on AMD64

please i need 
Built Java Plug-in in 64-bit and support 64-bit VM on Windows Xp 64-bit Edition

please i need 
Built Java Plug-in in 64-bit and support 64-bit VM on Windows Xp 64-bit Edition

please i need 
Built Java Plug-in in 64-bit and support 64-bit VM on Windows Xp 64-bit Edition

urgent

Please implement this as soon as possible

SUN,

Come on ... you guys are such big promoters of x64 bit technologies .... how come you don't have a 64 bit version of one of your flagship products... the JRE plugin. 

We need it, do not disappoint us !

Debalin.

Wny is this not already done?  How long does an RFE have to stay in the top 3 RFE's to become a reality?  

Would SUN consider releasing the source for the Plug-in so the Open community could work on it?

This page continues to be active in spite of Sun's lack of attention to 424 votes for the 3rd place RFE 4802695 ... please cast your vote to make it #1! 

In reply to the previous poster, we wait for the early 2007 anticipated release of the latest JDK7, open-sourced:

https://jdk7.dev.java.net/
http://community.java.net/jdk/opensource/
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/mr?entry=yes_we_really_are_going
http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/dannycoward?entry=open_source_cutting_the_java

Sign up as an SDK7 developer today ... let's make 64-bit support a reality!

Please start with your exploration of the JDK1.5.0 source that is available for download at:

http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

1. jdk-1_5_0-src-jrl.zip
2. jdk_sec-1_5_0-src-scsl.zip

Potential development paths to explore:

..\jdk5Source\jdk-1_5_0-src-jrl\deploy\src

    ..\plugin\share\classes\sun\plugin
    ..\javaws\share\classes\com\sun\javaws
    ..\javaws\win32\classes\com\sun\javaws

Checkout interesting developer notes at:

..\jdk5Source\jdk-1_5_0-src-jrl\deploy\src\plugin\solaris\Notes

I haven't found the time to explore the classes yet (of course, with my AMD64 3500 WinXP x64 environment I can't actually compile and open the applets found there!)

Handy developer links: 
   
http://download.java.net/jdk6/docs/technotes/guides/plugin/developer_guide/contents.html
http://download.java.net/jdk6/docs/technotes/guides/javaws/developersguide/contents.html

I am waiting

Please support java webstart in amd64 linux. I'm currently using Ubuntu Dapper 64

Is 64 bit 1.6 going to include webstart or not?  And are we finally going to just call it 64 bit or are we hanging on to this exclusive AMD thing?  At some point, the OOS Java version will overtake you - can you affort all this alienation?

I need a 64-bit java plugin for Firefox on x86_64 - Fedora Core 5. I can't understand why even the 1.6 beta doesn't have this. Seems so clearly obvious to me.

I need a Java plugin for x86_64 for Firefox on Fedora Core 5. It seems to clear to me, yet even in JDK 1.6 betas it's not there. Very odd. It boggles the mind that someone in Sun doesn't see this as a problem and correct it.

Please give us the 64 plugin....

This bug is over 3 **years** old...?

It's pretty ridiculous that it's taking so long to provide a browser plugin for 64-bit Java.

My guess as to how many developers Sun has placed on this issue...?

Zero.

If Java were OSS, this would have been fixed years ago.

Way to drop the ball, Sun.  :(

I need amd64 java plugin (on FreeBSD and linux)

Well - I am running on an Sun Ultra20 trying out Ubuntu Edgy in it 64-bits version - and I surely could use a plugin to the Mozilla Suite by now!!
I am voting yes for this fairly modest request - and am surprised to see, that it has taken so long.

This is unbelievable, I need java plugin in for navisphere all our machines are 64bit. This is a serious problem. I am having to use an antiquated windows box to run navisphere. Please sort this pronto.

I too was surprised to find there was no javaws for AMD64.  What's the technical hitch?

When do you plan to develop Java VM (browser plugin) for Linux x86_64 bits version?? I waited many years and it's still unexistant!!

When do you plan to develop Java VM (browser plugin) for Linux x86_64 bits version?? I waited many years and it's still unexistant!!

I could take care of implementing it: what I have to do to begin to working on that ?

let's go.... 64 bit now!

is it really so hard to get the 32bit plugin code compiled for 64bit ?!?

Just installed jre-6-rc-bin-b104-linux-amd64-01_nov_2006.jar 
-- STILL NO JAVAPLUGIN -- oh dear! 

This is need it right away  
Is there any workaround or something to view applets on a browser with an OS of 64 bits? 
When is going to be ready the plug-in?
Please Help Us

Please build a 64bit plugin for firefox. Im running Debian Etch on pure AMD64 and i cant get it work.

FOUR YEARS later, and this issue is still not addressed.  How pathetic.

Four years and no plugin?  Outrageous!  Not even an ETA!

Linux and Solaris have both run on 64-bit workstations since 1995 (Alpha, UltraSparc).  It's nearly 2007 as I write this and Sun still thinks it's 1993.

I realy don't understand why a 64-bit browser plugin isn't a higher priority. There are plenty of 64-bit linux distros that are not multilib. We need this!

I'm running Vista Build 6000 x64 on a Sony VGN-SZ370P/C laptop running Intel Core 2 Duo which is EM64T capable.  I may be an early adopter since I've been running Vista since it was first made publicly available as a beta but the retail released date for Vista is in just over a month!

I siwtched to 64bit since several months (years in the server), it's incredible a 64bit plugin is not yet available.
Wasn't the motto "write once, runs everywhere" ?

Please fix this for the forth anniversary of this bug report. It would be a good birthday present.  

Pretty please! 

One option is GCJ it works in 64 bit with some caveots, like little to no security. (somthing like - /usr/lib64/gcj-4.1.1/libgcjwebplugin.so)

Another, and likely the best option is to use the source for JAVA as it has been GPL'd, so <B>WE</B> can fix it! :)

Of course you can also run the 32bit browser on the 64bit O/S and use the 32 bit plugin.  While not desireable, it certainly gets ones by just fine.

Don't get me wrong, I'm beating my head against the wall as well, but the JAVA team deserves respect.  I'm a senior manager at a Fortune 150 company, I was a senior systems engineer in the same environment, I know that in no way will beating up folks will motivate them to move this up in the priority stack.  Donuts, pizza, beer, paintball, stock,...etc are better motivators than flaming them.

So Sun JAVA developers, where do you want the pizza delivered? ;)

a 64-bit JPI is absolutely critical for CAD data management.  Customers are working with increasingly large assemblies, and the memory footprint of the 32-bit JPI is just not enough.   My company alone represents a user base of 400,000+ users that could use a 64-bit plug-in.  Please implement a 64-bit java plug-in!

Is Sun's answer here that someone else has to take the GPL code and produce a GPL'ed OpenJDK (non-certified) Plug-In?  They can't pretend this need does not exist forever...

come on sun, get off of your btts & release a 64 bit java plugin for IE7 !!

Okay, I've upgrade my development environment to an
Sun Ultra-20 running Fedora Core 6 (x86-64). [I was
running a Sun Ultra-10 running Solaris 9 (64-bit) for
the longest time.]
I'm using standard distro firefox-1.5.0.9 (64-bit)...
WTF, I can't get the 64-bit JRE plugin?
It is 2007 already!
Come on guys!

such a plugin would aid my reaserch for creating web based 3d games in java, currently limited by the memory mapping limit of 32 bit systems

i'm currently studying software technologies for the web, i have all my applets compiling and running under jdk x64 but i carn't run them in a 64 bit browser :(

java se 6 is out and still no plugin??? i might turn to javaScript instead

Please.

I need this to be able to debug Java support in Firefox. Please fix this now.

Woohoo! Finally an update from Sun! On Jan 16/07 the 'Evaluation' details found near the top of this document were updated with Sun's new commitment:
...
"This RFE has finally been comitted to the dolphin (JDK 1.7) release.
Posted Date : 2007-01-16 22:20:04.0"
...

JDK1.7 will ship open source, so now is the time for all concerned developers to join together for this fundamental change to the deployment architecture.

See my 28-Sept-2006 post above for links to do that.

Addendum to woohoo post above :)

Well, it seems that I needlessly pulled the last of my hair out trying to produce 64-bit functionality for Java Control Panel, Plugin and Webstart. Taadaa, there is a work-around! ... 32-bit, but at least I can now open Eclipse in my main OS! We can now be patient waiting/participating in the open-source JDK7 development process to finally support 64-bit.

This work-around is for AMD64 running WinXP x64 OS, but it may be relevant for other 64-bit OS as well:

The jre included with the 64-bit jdk is a private jre serving the jdk, so to allow your 64-bit environment to correctly use Java deployment, install the public 32-bit jre. It will install into ../Program Files (x86)/Java and auto-create the classpath ... you can find the Java control panel icon in Control Panel/View x86 Control Panel Icons folder. 

For Eclipse users: 

I attempted to open eclipse-SDK-3.2-win32-x86_64 with a double-click, and received the same error message as before installing the public jre:
org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.SystemBundleActivator.start() of bundle system.bundle. 
...I also attempted to open it using the dos command:
 C:\eclipse-SDK-3.2-win32-x86_64\eclipse\eclipse -vm "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.6.0\bin\javaw"
... and received a new error message:
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\eclipse-SDK-3.2-win32-x86_64\eclipse\configuration\org.eclipse.osgi\bundles\79\1\.cp\swt-win32-3232.dll: Can't load AMD 64-bit .dll on a IA 32-bit platform.
... if you're a 64-bit .inf guru please post your solution to link to the AMD 64-bit .dll :)

So, I installed the 32-bit Eclipse, and it loads with no problems ... choose a new name for the workspace to preserve your 64-bit Eclipse future workspace environment, if already installed.

Richard Wright

Incredible. 4 years, and still no progress, not even an explanation of why it is delayed so long.

Hey Markus!

I included my remarks and links above to provide alternatives since this is only a bug database and not a forum. We will never see replies from Sun here ... the only Sun-sponsored bit is the Evaluation at the top of the page. I re-iterate:

Evaluation:

64-bit support is deferred to a future release.
  xxxxx@xxxxx   2005-06-01 21:40:27 GMT
This RFE has finally been committed to the dolphin (JDK 1.7) release.
Posted Date : 2007-01-16 22:20:04.0

Some on-topic gleaned text with addys:

http://java.sun.com/developer/community/askxprt/2006/jl0227.html

Ask the Experts: Java Plug-In Technology

...
Micron Gust: I'm running 64-bit Linux (Mandriva 2006) on my Athlon 64 workstation and I use the 64-bit version of Firefox bundled with the distro. I'm a Java developer and I do my development against the Sun 1.5 JDK for Linux on AMD_64. Unfortunately, the browser plugin is not available for the 64-bit version of the Sun JDK for Linux. What's the reason for this? Is Sun working a browser plugin for 64-bit Linux? Sun and AMD appear to have a great relationship, so this strikes me as very odd. 

Mike Lei: The work is non-trivial, especially when 32-bit and 64-bit JREs are both installed. Please see the bug database entry for Support Java Plug-in on 64-bit AMD Opteron. You can vote for it. 

...  >edit: sheesh! :)

http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=24281

Thread: webstart in windows 64

... 
trembovetski 

AFAIK we don't ship webstart or plugin with our 64-bit binaries, since they're considered to be used in a 'server' or 'development' environments and thus don't need plugin/webstart.

If you need webstart/plugin, you can install a 32-bit jdk (assuming your browser is also 32-bit).

I believe 64-bit plugin is under discussion now and the current state could be reconsidered in the future at least for some 64-bit platforms.

I'll defer to deployment folks (Stanley Ho - http://weblogs.java.net/blog/stanleyh/) for further information..

Thanks,
Dmitri
Java2D Team 
...

That's my post at the end of the thread calling Stanley Ho, Java Deployment lead, to action, but alas, he didn't reply!

http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=656649&tstart=75

Plugin on Amd64?

12 very frustrated posts with no Sun reply.

The point of my post is that there will be no more hand feeding from Sun ... they are now committed to including a fix for 64-bit suppoort in JDK7 and to delivering full source to the community for co-development by mid-Spring.

At least make it so I can install 32 and 64 bit JREs on the same system, use /usr/java and /usr/java64 if you have to.

I should add to the above that I am trying to use this on Sun's own 64-bit Ultra40M2 workstations, you make 64-bit workstations and you own Java, make this work.

Still no 64bit support, incredible. Another 18 month to wait now...
No words

what broken with your reality? No 64bit-plugin for 2 years, and you DEFER this to 1.7? You must be fucking smoking crack. 

Me too! Three platforms here. This is OS/2 Déjà Vu.

Better late than never! Go 1.7.

There are many amd64 and em64t machines now. And this bug gets so many votes.

Sun should realize the priority of this RFE is very high. Java plug-in on amd64 should be added to the current release right now!
We are waiting it for a long time and can't wait it in the future release that no one knows the actual release date.

and when 1.7 will be released?? Maybe it would be possible to release it as unofficial patch?

i just think this is very bad for all including sun's commitment with oss 

2 years and 5 months, and this issue is still not corrected!!! This is really very bad!

its really a bad problem. want this plugin support for 64 bit

I don't consider this an enhancement but rather a bug. Please fix this!

Having no amd64 support will definitely having me consider using other platform than java.

Now that Inte's got 64bit platform, will this BUG be fixed actually?

Will it really come out in JDK 1.7? When will it be?

As far as I can tell, we've been waiting for a plugin for more than 2 years.

This should be an extremely huge drawback for Sun and Java.

My business relies on java to playback our clipstream audios.
Need runtime for windows 64 on AMD Athlon XP and Opteron.

welp. considering how long this has been ongoing (4 YEARS, 4 1/2 MONTHS). the only conclusion is that sun *doesn't know how* to do a 64 bit browser plugin for java.    

no surprise.. they win the lawsuit against microsoft, microsoft no longer does a java vm, now sun sits on their arses and doesn't innovate or develop.. not even justto  keep up with the times.  no incentive to, no competition to worry about, etc, etc....

:shock:

maybe some day when the necessary code is open-sourced by sun, some bloke will feel sorry for sun and java and whip up a proper 64 bit plugin... the question is.. will it be before or after microsoft releases vista +2 ??

I'm running FC3 x86_64 on amd64 (s939) msi nforce4 mobo and cannot use java in my browsers.

I downloaded the JDK 1.7 onto my Linux box, but still no x86_64 plug-in.

I examined JDK 1.7 more carefully.  It looks like there is still no support for 64 bit platforms.  The following is listed in the JDK 1.7 documentation:

http://download.java.net/jdk7/docs/build/README-builds.html#mozilla

Not that anyone at Sun seems to care, but I would also like to be able to use the plugin on 64-bit...
With java being Open Sourced, I guess our only hope is someone helping them out so that they finally (about five years too late) can give us one.

If java is now open source, why not write it ourselves!?

Java is supposed to be multiplatform. There's NO EXCUSE for this bug entry even existing.

Who do I have to kill to FINALLY get 64bit support from Fucking Sun?

It seems to work for me, with GNU. I got this warning

http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1 wants to load an applet.
GNU Classpath's security implementation is not complete.
HOSTILE APPLETS WILL STEAL AND/OR DESTROY YOUR DATA!

I click on trust applet. 

http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=2 wants to load an applet.
GNU Classpath's security implementation is not complete.
HOSTILE APPLETS WILL STEAL AND/OR DESTROY YOUR DATA!

Again trust applet.

http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml

shows  in a 64 bit  iceweasel browser a dancing java animation. 

Vendor:			Free Software foundation
Version:		1.4.2
Operating System:   Linux
OS version:	       2.6.18-4-amd64


Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070508 Iceweasel/2.0.0.4 (Debian-2.0.0.4-0etch1)

That's ridiculous. This 'bug' exists for more than 4 years now and nothing happens. Thousands of users are waiting for this plugin and sun is sleeping. Im sure this is great for sun's image....

AMD is dropping the "64" tag from their new series of processors, they will be called Athlon X2 instead of Athlon 64 X2. Almost all processors in the market are 64 bits by now so that its marketing value is not significant anymore.
Maybe Sun can resist to develop a 64 bit plugin for a few years more and everyone will forget the distinction between 32 and 64 bits.

Erm, guys, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe that the webstart and plugin portion of the JDK is still closed-source, right?

my computari is slro

Haha... Sun is a 32bit computing shop.

You have two choices:
1. Use a desktop that is 4-5 years old and the Sun java plugin
2. Use a recent 64bit desktop and GCJ or blackdown java plugin

You know, Sun, the most important (and one of the only useful in my opinion) implementation of your bloated technology is the WEB integration! How is it possible that Dell has all but stopped selling 32-bit processors and you are still sitting on your hands about this? Now I see that it has been committed to DOLPHIN! What is wrong with the developers here? Getting Microsoftitis, you are so ubiquitous that you just don't care anymore? 

Someone needs to digg and/or slashdot this...

I 573rd this to be supported soon.  Not supporting 64 bit is folly; it is clearly the next step.

I 573rd this to be supported soon.  Not supporting 64 bit is folly; it is clearly the next step.

Writing this while downloading the blackdown plugin. Or is there any way of getting the JDK 1.7 release without big hassle?

do it :-)

What makes it so extremely difficult to release a 64-bit plugin?? 64-bit Linux has been mainstream for a log time now. Wake up, please!

I'm running Kubuntu 7.04 on AMD64 (Turion).  
However 64bit version of Firefox 2 can't use
java plugin, as iti s available for 32bit version only.
Hopefully your 64 bit plugin will be available soon.

i'm using Kubuntu 7.04 distribution of Linux.
My browser is Firefox 2, 64 bit version,
I hope you release soon 64 bit version of the plugin, as it already became a standard for CPU.

Write once.  Run only on older platforms?

this seems to be related to really outdated code in the netscape plugin (the documentation points to the fact that one needs to use GCC 2.95 to compile the plugin...). i remember the transition from libc5 to libc6 was an issue as well in those days... since then, nothing has changed... seems like Java support in netscape-kind browsers (OJI) is more like a hack than a serious piece of software somehow -- hard to say whose fault this is...
anyway: running applets using the appletviewer shipped with the jdk works nice with all applets i have seen so far on amd64. just get this thing work with mozilla somehow...

I work in a _big_ company. We've to choose between different solutions for our new SAP environment. SUN was one of the competitors.
Since I have "some" influence in these decision, I pushed in the right way, and I made my colleagues (they're also managers) to choose another brand.
SUN, you lost not less than 10.000.000 Euro.

Do you want to know one of the reason? Ok. also if the solutions were nearly similar, I don't like to feed company that are lazy (this is the right word!) like you. If you're so lazy for stupid things like the one reported in this page, how can you be, for _really_ difficult issues?

Goodbye SUN.

This is just amazing. Four and a half years of nothing. I can only assume that there are non technical issues blocking this bug from being fixed. Whatever it is, I fear this really needs to escelate and get some publicity until some manager cares to push this RFE. Maybe with the work on JavaFX and enhancements planned for the JRE in that respect, which is expected for JDK6 still, also a 64bit plugin will be released?

This is a fundamental necessity. It should have been released years ago. Deferring it to Dolphin when it should have come with Tiger -- frankly, that's just laziness, and nothing more or less than that.

I would suggest putting the utmost priority in this. It is simply ridiculous to have to wait almost five years for something that is probably trivial coding-wise but extremely important to end-users. The fact that development in other areas of the Java platform continues happily as ever only enforces that.

The x86_64 architecture is a standard nowadays, and there is no excuse not to support it properly, especially in such fundamental aspects as the browser plug-in. Sorry, Sun, but I'm quite cross with you for this. (Still lovin' Java, though. :)

Isn't this just another indicator of Sun having financial trouble and lacking resources? In light of the sudden open sourcing, lacking innovation and the ridiculous ticker change from SUNW to JAVA.

What's taking you so long? This is the #1 RFE on the bug parade for such a long time it's simply incredible that it's not already fixed.

I cant understand why sun is taking so much time to comeout with a java plugin for 64Bit. The non availability of the plugin is causing real trouble. Its high time some solution is offered.

more than 2 year passed and still not getting and java plugin for mozilla or firefox 64-bit .
  amazing .....................................................

 by the way professionally i am a java programmer and i know recently sun targeting linux os a lot for server side development. but still no support for 64 bit firefox.


  plz fix it.

arnab/vu2bpw 

When will the 64bit plugin be available? It is a shame that so many months after the introduction of 64bit processors and OS to the desktop users, SUN has not yet released such a plugin. I personally use an AMD64 and Archlinux x86_64 distro. PLEASE tell me you will have a plugin available ASAP

I was just having a read of Java's history (http://ei.cs.vt.edu/book/chap1/java_hist.html).  Seems it took about 4 years to go from serious project to having browser support in Netscape.   One wonders why it is taking LONGER than that to get 64-bit browser support.  I guess they have to write twice as much code to fill in all those extra bits.

I'm not following why the plugin cannot be ported to 64-bit, given that the entire JDK can.

Sun promotes the platform-independence of Java so highly.  I'm glad this shortcoming hasn't hit the media yet.

From what I found, JDK 1.7 is expected around January 2009; so that means more than a year until a 64-bit plugin and a total time of 6 years since somebody had the foresight to submitt this request.  Sun would do well to give the original poster an upper management job. 

PS How's Project Looking Glass coming along? I took a look at the website earlier on my Compiz-enabled machine... hehehehe

Really needed ASAP... All our workstations are 64bit now.

I'm not an expert on Java programming (and/or browser programming for this problem), but I find strange that Sun has been able to port the whole JRE to 64 bit, but it has problems to port the plugin.

Thinking outside the box and trying to grasp the big picture here, the following come to mind:

1) If this issue has been on the table for 5 years, why should we believe today that "next year" we will have 64 bit JRE for Windows? It's like hearing "the check is in the mail."

2) Since Sun & Microsoft litigated over VM and Sun prevailed, MS no longer has a VM. That means MS's 64 bit OS has no VM and Sun has the market monopoly on VM with their JRE. Sun has and has had for some while, 64 bit operating systems. Does Sun's dragging of the feet on this issue compel users to switch from MS operating systems to Sun operating systems? It did with me; I bought a Sun 64 bit operating system so I can run 64 bit JRE on my 64 bit platform.

3) Should the litigation be re-opened, or new litigation commenced over this issue? I hope it does not come to that. 

If Sun has 64 bit JRE that will run on Windows 64 bit platfroms, why do they refuse to release it?

Do you really think that after five years of this issue being on the table that Sun does not have the build? Come on now!

Hopefully they will just release it sooner rather then later so we don't have to resort to litigation and/ or continue to hear "the check's in the mail."

I just installed 64-bit Ubuntu 7.1 and was disappointed to learn that there is no 64-bit Java plugin for Firefox.  After finding this bug I can't believe Sun is taking so long to create a 64-bit plugin

Running Firefox 64bit on both Linux & Windows x64 Why do we need to wait so long for this?!?

i use firefox x64 on both Windows and Linux, and it is terrible that we still miss something as simple as x64 java plugin!?! Its been three year already!!! please do something about it...

Rafael

64 Bit linux nsplugin needed

64-bit is the natural wave of the future. x64 is my primary development computer.

Two months more and it's 5 years! Damn!

Microsoft is serious with their 64-bit .net on 64-bit windows. Do you, Sun, really want to loose the battle?

64-bit is no longer for server today. More and more laptops/desktops today are sold with 64-bit architecture. Desktop/laptop users need the webstart and the browser plugin. Please do something!

Gladly the GNU project has been working on free Java implementation for a while, including browser plugin. It should be somewhat usable already and work on modern computers unlike the Sun's software. Futhermore you don't have to wait for the possibility of something being supported in the future by Sun, it exists already!

I'm running openSuse 10.3 x86_64 on  AMD64X2 using 64bit  Opera and Firefox browser, but I'm NOT able to run java in my browser. Please, please help us out, there really are a lot of users desperately in need of the 64 bit plugin. Since all the rest of Java is available in 64 bit, I guess it cannot be that hard and time consuming to have this plugin made.

Sun folks, have you been reading any of these desperate requests  for a 64 bit browser plugin during these past years??
Wake up, or you will loose the market you have with Java, if no one with 64bit browser is able to use any java.  The number of 64bit users is growing very strongly!!

Please support 64 bit browsers.....

Would love to get this as well...

1 year to take this in account ...
Wouah 2 years to say ok let put it in jdk7.
and after 1 year nothing to eat, drink, show ??? 
64bits support is ENTERPRISE blocker to all linux deployment !!!

We are in the end of 2007, Could a informed "ingénieur" talk to us and estimate a release date. (2008, 2012, 2022, 2037 last date when 32bits timestamp would end ... ;-)) 
)

I've try the jdk7 snapshot, and there's nothing about applet inside.
Would you like that Sun will be the last able to run it's own program on 64bits ? 

We are upgrading over 500 Linux machines this summer to a 64bit distrobution and it sure would be nice to have a 64bit java plugin for
their web browsers.

thanx

We are upgrading over 500 Linux machines this summer to a 64bit distrobution and it sure would be nice to have a 64bit java plugin for
their web browsers.

thanx

Lets face it, this whole bug reporting thing in Sun Microsystem is useless. 

They ignore 64bit platform as much as they are able - the plugin is not the only thing that does not work on amd64 - let's mention java web, start "missing" since 2002 (bug ID 4626735). 

I think it must some kind of .NET market support.

Try the "64-bit" mono plugin instead. Apparently, they're more committed to 64-bit. http://www.mono-project.com/Downloads

please, 64 bits plugin for JDK 1.5, 1.6!

If Sun reads and is serious about this RFE, they would let the community know about the status of this bug. Apparently, we can't hear anything from them about this bug. Because no one from them is interested.

Why waste your time? Go-mono!

I've got a DELL VOSTRO 1000 Notebook, Ubuntu AMD64, got every plugin to work, except the Java plugin for Firefox (64-bit); no support apparently for the 64-bit platform. Hope to see this being developed...thanks in advance dev-guys

I think we were being traded by Sun . Sun and Microsoft may have some agreement under table. 

We know that Microsoft push IE7 hardly now. It will be good to request Sun to delay  64 bit plug in for firefox . Such that IE7 can win the browser war. ( The closed source and open source browser war). 

If MS win the browser war, Open source will be killed . No one will use Linux any more if it could not brows Internet.

In this thinking,  I guest Sun will be bought/join by Microsoft very soon. That is why they are unwilling to provide the Java 64 bit plug in for FireFox.

Otherwise, I do not see any reason , why Sun is ignore the strong request on 64 bit plug in for firefox. 

If you see the Novel and Microsoft agreement , you may agree this. 

Sun may be the seconder trader on open source after Novell.  

It is simple ,  Sun business is not good, Microsoft have money to buy .

Running opensuse 10.3 on AMD 64 server. Need java plugin for firefox.

I'm using opensuse 10.3 and in a need to run firefox including javaplugin on amd 64 server

at least ibm seems to support webstart with 64bits: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/download.html (but as sun: no netscape-plugin though)

We're waiting for the new java plugin support for the 64bit platform

Please we need plug in for 64 bit, how long does it take to develop this for 64 bit users systems.

yes, its really about time... 

We are working on a government project and the requirement forces us to use 64bit java plugin for 64bit mozilla or firefox with Linux (RedHat to be specific).  We need the darn thing now not tomorrow.  Please consider this as urgent.

please support amd64 on linux - all my computers are running this now.

64 bit browser support is needed like yesterday.

64 bit browser support is needed like yesterday

Happy Birthday to your 5th anniversary

A forward looking evaluation.  It  "was" posted tomorrow night!!!!

There is hope after all.   I am the last in the block to move to 64bit and now discovered there is no Java plugin for Firefox linux64.  Wasn't  Java born 64bit?

Seriously, Sun, what's the deal here?  All new computers are 64 bit, meaning you're trying to kill the applet for Linux users, which doesn't make any sense... I mean a bug open for 5 years?? Come on!

As for me, I'm the lead engineer at a very large software company (one of the top 5 largest in the world) that wants to build a product that uses the Java plug-in, but I can't recommend that course of action if it's going to alienate all our Linux users!  You're seriously losing market share of Java as a client-side platform as a result of your inaction here.

> This RFE has fianaly been comitted to the dolphin (JDK 1.7) release.
> Posted Date : 2007-01-16 22:20:04.0

By the way, I just installed the early release of JDK 1.7, and the plugin's still not there...

Sun, Sun, Sun .... !!!!

... shame on you!

OpenSuSE 10.3 on a 64bit box, Firefox 64bit => no chance to have java working within this browser although I have a 32bit JDK installed !
Seeing Windows 64bit users complain as well, I would say it is a good point for Java detractor.

* bump * anybody home?  Read the comments, you're losing money dumbasses.

Guess I'll try Blackdown (downgrade from 1.6 to 1.4 or whatever).
That will make 4 different java environments I have to keep track of:

There are 3 alternatives which provide `java'.

  Selection    Alternative
-----------------------------------------------
*         1    /usr/bin/gij-4.2
 +        2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
          3    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
 

Good grief... how ignorant can one be!
I'll say it in three syllables simple enough for a three-year-old to understand: 

WE'RE-WAI-TING!

You may be called Sun, but you obviously have yet to see the light you are supposed to emit yourself. Shame.

I suggest Sun chucks the 64bit effort immediately and starts working on a 512bit plugin to be on the market once such machines show up in perhaps 20 years. And if that's too much of a rush, consider a version of quantum java....

Yeah, mine was the 666th vote ;-)

Hurry up sun, or we'll reach 666666666 votes next year...

673

Why the 64 bit Java still could not properly installed on the AMD 64 bits Phenom, its application could not be read by the website which ask for Java command, can someone explain how to improve?

For those of us who need to support 64-bit users today, what's the best alternative?  Flash, Silverlight, HTML canvas, ... ?

I use 64-bit SUSE, and Firefox, and I would really really like to use Sun's Java plugin with this

I am using 64-bit SUSE and Firefox, and I would rather use Sun's plugin with a current version of Java than BlackDown's.

What Sun pulled off here, making 64bit users wait for over 4 years, has turned me from a Sun fan into a Sun HATER. I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE Y I HATE YOU!OU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YO I  I HATE YOU!HATE YOU!U! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE  I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE  I HATE YOU!YOU! I HATE YOU!YOU I HATE YOU!! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU!

I'll NEVER use Sun products again.
And you have TOTALLY convinced me that closed source is NOT the way to go. It has been made completely clear that nobody can have their company rely on close source software.

Thank you.

This 5+ year deficiency is an excellent illustration of the benefits of truly Open Source software. Depending on Sun specific software obviously carries a risk of long term lack of support for  serious problems.

I am so sad.  I waited and waited to get a 64 bit machine.  I wanted to make sure it had software that would run on it.  I finally got the wife's go-ahead to buy a dual core laptop with 64 bit arch.  I wiped the Redmond virus off, got Nvidia ( tm ) working, got wireless working, dvd playback, flash player, then find out Eclipse only runs on Sun 1.5 and *NO JAVA PLUGIN FOR MY FIREFOX?!?!?!?!*  I'm a Java developer, for ******'s sake!  What am I supposed to tell people at the office?  I live in an Agile/Scrum room.  Our biz SMEs know I have a laptop in the works.  How do I explain that I have Beryl running like a champ, but Java can't live on a good architecture.  "Why are you writing my application in this language??"   *Aaaaaggghhhh*  

Now Fedora 9 has x86_64 plugin.
Some applets works fine, but others not.

this should be a higher priority.  most newer computers use a 64-bit arch

Please fix it.

Please fix it

By this date, I am not sure that "medium" is still a sufficient priority.

WOW! 5 YEARS!!!

SUN, can you please give us an update regarding this RFE!

A major big one that shows us why Java "commercial release" is dead.
 - NO ANSWER from RFE monitors for  3 years
 - strategic mistakes "64bits si for servers only". Lol ! Heaviest video games and multimedia tasks are actually and now reaching the 32bit 4GB limit. Every single computer on the market is 64bits ready.
 - Sun devs are not able to compile a source code when it is not a 32bit one. Is a plugin harder to compile than a standard JVM ?

I know that Java applets are, like Flash, 32bits systems, ActiveX, the "born dead" Webstart, a ghost from the past that will (at least must) sink into oblivion. But entreprise support is required, some companies are using applets and may switch to 64bits workstation sooner that Sun is expecting.

I can't believe we have waited for more than 5 years!

I use 64-bit SUSE, and Firefox, and I would really really like to use Sun's Java plugin with this

Waiting desperately for 64-bit Linux plugin.

Yeah, I'm going to throw in my two bits for this bug, too - please, please, please do this SOONER, not later.  This is driving me nuts...

Early 2009?? Are you kidding me?? This bug is OVER 5 years old and you're telling me it's going to take another YEAR to get the support??  If Java is already working in 64-bit O/Ss I find it hard to believe that getting the plugin code finished is going to take that long!?

Early 2009? Incredible! People who have supported Sun and Java for years are ignored yet again. It may be time to migrate my skill set to Ruby and say goodbye to Java anyway. Any company that dismisses its user community so blatantly deserves to lose market share.

Sarcastic mode ON: 

hopefully we don't switch to 128 bit procesors, cause we might die before getting 64bit plugin. But my kids will be able to play with it ! That counts for something, right ? ... hehe

Sarcastic mode OFF: 

Is early 2009 real?

Given that 6u10 will provide out-of-process operation and a smaller, tighter, cleaner in-process component communicating with it that would seem to solve >90% of the issues.  Do the last <10% really require a delay until 2009?

It would seem a good idea to pester on this one at JavaOne...

I use Firefox 64bit, also java is 64bit. But there is no web java plugin to be linked agenst firefox plugins. I can not use java with 64 bit browsers. I can not use java based web applications. This is a must and should have higher priority.

  You guys are idiots. You are turning a whole community of users and developers against you because you are too lazy to recompile a few lines of code under a new platform. Or perhaps you are not idiots and you are doing this on purpose. 
  Either way, I've added you to my list of evil companies. If I will ever have the opportunity to choose myself between using your services/products or not, I know which way I'll go. 

It is an understatement to say that Sun is not generating any good will by being slow to release a 64 bit browser plugin.  It would be nice to have some sort of feedback on why this is such a protracted effort.  Without that kind of information, the community that wants and needs this will assume it is being spurned without reason.  Throw us a bone here!

Where is the 64-bit plugin?  We have been waiting for years.  This has caused MAJOR inconveniences for a lot of us.  Get off your lazy asses and compile us a 64-bit version.

Max

Submit Date of this bug(?) is 14-JAN-2003 and you are planning to release it in early 2009!!! OMG!...
When will you start to develop it ? in DEC-2008 ???

Why are plugins so difficult to recompile? Adobe is doing the same thing with flash, ignoring 64-bit support.  It's kind of annoying when you get yourself a 64-bit processor and install a new operating system just to realize that the biggest software companies are those who doesn't bother to fully support this new platform. I mean, sun probably have a turnover of several billions a year, so they should have enough money to afford to pay for a guy to work on this for a couple of weeks to fix it.. but nahh, thats not cost efficient. In fact, it is ignorances and inabilities to adapt to new technology like this one who makes many companies loose their leading positions on the market.

6 years to recompile that plug-in for 64 bit?
wa hahaha
It didn't take even 5 monts to make a port for 64 bit of pcsx and mupen64, I don't think that plugin is any complex compared to an emulator with dinamic recompiler.

And still you dare to say that java runs even in a stove!!!
If python had half of your publicity and lies it would be as known as java.

Sun should be deeply ashamed about this problem, esp. since they produce 64bit CPUs for years. 

Compatibility is a quality criteria.

"Cross platform"? 
Nice joke, SUN. 
*LOL*
You should direct your publicity to Python, the one that WORKS.

needed

over 40 months to support this ..., please fix it!

I need it too

Come on Sun, there is a great demand for a 64bit Windows plugin for 64 bit browsers. 

This is by far the best argument that I've seen, in support of free and open source software. More than 5 years for a 64-bit Java plugin...

6 years and counting............

2009 ?! 
6 years for a plugin ?!

6 years for a medium priority... Sun is a fork of Microsoft :)

There is more and more 64-bits PC, but no portability with java. So, I'm going to banish java to all my developments and web-based application. 

There is no future with Java but dependencies, waiting and frustration.

2009 ?! 
6 years for a plugin ?!

And 6 years for a "medium" priority... Sun is a fork of Microsoft :)

"754 votes", it's more than 24 of the Top 25 Bugs, but this bug isn't in the top list...

There is more and more 64-bits PC, but no portability with java.
So, there is no future with Java but dependencies, waiting and frustration.

I'm going to banish java to all my developments and web-based application. 

Java is a joke.

you know what?  never mind.  Iced Tea does nicely.

I suggest you rlease it now under GPL for users to test under linux as a Debian package. Java is rapidly becoming irrelevant because AMD64 linux usersa cannot run it as a plug-in. 

In 64 bits machines...

Goodbye, Java, Hello, Iced Tea!

ridiculous to the EXTREME and poster child for pure INCOMPETENCE!!!!!!

I used to be a huge Sun fan, but his is the epitome of huge corporate bloat and sure signs of Sun's downfall.  What a shame, you once were the standard of quality and innovation.

RIP Sun, I'm divorcing myself from Java ......

Please fix this ASAP.   Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzz

Incredible.  I've been using Java since 1995 (originally via Netscape!) and I'm now unable to actually test my own codes as all my systems are 64bit.  I cannot believe that I still have to wait until next year for a simple plugin for Firefox.

Time for something else, I guess.  Very depressing.

This is a major drawback for communicating with SSL applets with my work. Installing 32-bit JRE and JSSE do not work (or at least I don't know how to properly do it). All our computers are 64-bit and we have converted all our software here at work. We expect the same of SUN. THANK YOU

perhaps you could avoid ridicule and abuse if you might explain what is so friggin hard about this ?
My guess is that the JVM was miswritten to depend on 32bit pointers,
but what do I know.

Once Java 6 Update 10 is out with its out-of-process model and new, small in-process nub, I'd hope/assume it should be rather trivial to provide 64-bit plug-ins for Windows, Linux, and Solaris (i.e. all 3 platforms Sun releases JVMs for).  [If not then some rather nasty shortcut was taken in 6u10.]

I can't believe that Sun still has not released the 64bit Java plug in.

This is really Sad for a company that loves to overdue their updates and versions of java and caint even get their java working on the 64bit platform after almost three years.  

I'm not impressed at all with Suns decision to hold back this project.  with decissions like these I will not be so open to try Java or Sun products in the future in reaction.

Dan

I am surprised that this bug is dragging for so long. AMD64 architecture processors (both AMD and Intel) are more or less standard for all new machines. Luckily servers do not need this plugin. Anyway openJDK is a partial solution because it works with applets, does not work with Java Web Start.

It's really impressive that nothing has been done on such matter... Lot's of people are demanding the 64bit plugin and Sun is simply ignoring this need!

The wait is over... OpenJDK 6b11 went out on Ubuntu linux updates yesterday, and now gcjwebplugin runs signed applets on x86_64 just fine. Woot!

I was struggling with this problem two days ago. Then I saw this thread, and that it was fixed in icedtea just yesterday. I tried my homebank again and woot! It works!!
Thanks so much for the fix, for java and for making it free!

It is good to see that this support is finally available onf Linux. Is it likely that Applet pluggins and WebStart are likely to be available on the 64bit windows platform any time soon?

so what sun is essentially saying here is that java is not a viable choice if you want to have a new platform supported in less than six years.
write once, run only on obsoleted hardware.
way to go.

Users of Citrix Metaframe rely on a Java applet for `universal' remote access to Metaframe services (desktop sessions).  This `universal' access model is being hamstringed by the missing 64 bit plug-in.

Typically, if the plugin is not found, the user is redirected to Sun's web site to download Java.  However, after downloading and installing 64 bit Java, there is still no plugin - so the user is redirected back to Sun's web site again.  The user is given no feedback about why they are going around in circles like this - from the user's point of view, Java is installed, so they don't understand why they get messages about a missing plug-in.

This is a severe usability issue: it is confusing for end users and support personnel when there are things missing from some versions of the Java package.  It is definitely Sun's responsibility, and not the fault of Citrix, to ensure that the Java packages are complete and equivalent across all supported platforms: 32 bit, 64 bit.

Vote 792 is mine, this is simpy hillarious Sun..
.. and what's up with medium priority?
You guys must be smoking something really bad..

Wow.  This is seriously making me reconsider using Java for one of my projects ever again.  Even C# would be much better, and I usually loath using Microsoft solutions.

I guess all that hubbub about opening up Java was correct; Sun really doesn't care about developers or end users in the long run.

Early 2009? Way to push this developer and end user away from your products. 

2009? If there is already a 64bit VM for Linux, it shouldn't be that difficult to implement a plugin.

ll

Excluding an increasing number of customers for almost six years now is ridiculous, if they really want to keep Java in business. In a current german computer magazine James Gosling is talking about trying to get applets back to the desktop, but he does not seem to see the most basic reasons, why Java has lost its customers.

There are more bugs and had been more bugs beyond this one eliminating the chances to deploy Applets or even Java applications to public, as critical bugs too often do not get fixed in an even somehow reasonable time.

"Your program ist not working anymore? Oh, no problem - just wait 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 years, and it will work again! No need to do anything about it..."

Who cares?  The IcedTeaPlugin works well for 64 bit Linux.   While it might be nice to have a sun certified solution, this has become more of an academic point. 

I've found the iced tea plug-in incredibly buggy and non-functional when it comes to web start, so I'm still eagerly anticipating this...

mack3457, agreed on the buggyness of applets, though I've been pretty impressed by 6u10 and the new plug-in.  FWIW, I've been working on the Pivot project (www.pivot-toolkit.org) to address the issues in AWT/Swing.

great news that this is finally coming soon...please don't let it slip. ;)
Also, if there is specific work that volunteers could do to help move this along, please post such info here.

8-Fix Available?? hmm anyone knows 6u12 release date?
6u11 already shipped :)

just got this email:
You are receiving this notification because the state(s) of the bug(s)
that you voted on have been updated.

http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4802695
Old State: null     New State: null

That finally a 64 bit plugin will be supported on linux is great news, 
6 years too late, but still great news.

It is great, indeed. But after six years, is it still "news"?

The release of 64-bit Java Web Start is crucial as the 32-bit one does not work on 64-bit system with ia32 libraries installed. In my case it just fails to connect to server giving me royal pain in the arse for 2 years now. I am running Debian/Ubuntu and cannot use enterprise grade applications until i reboot into 32-bit system. This is ridiculous. Please keep up! 

What about FireFox itself? The Konqueror browser in KDE runs Java applets just by using the Java VM. Why can't FireFox do the same? Loth to switch from FireFox, but the solution that Konqueror uses seems much better to me.

2115 days since submit date, and counting...

Now with the 64bit (though alpha) flashplugin at hand it's really getting time for a 64bit java plugin! 
I'm running gentoo x86_64 on several amds and intels with firefox being the only 32bit software. I really appreciate the work on the java plugin to get rid of this old fashioned code ;).

I'd like to urgently an javaplugin for my 64-bit linux. when this comes?

Still no plugin - it's almost 4 years now since this thread started!!!

Come on SUN - this should be possible!

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH SUN MICROSHIT????

inux x64 Platform

    *
I installed the 6u12 early access binaries on my laptop

      Linux x64 RPM in self-extracting JDK file
      jdk-6u12-ea-bin-b02-linux-amd64-08_dec_2008-rpm.bin, 72.35 MB (MD5 Checksum)

Is the JAVA web-start and JAVA plug-in for linux x86_64 available with this kit ? 

If this RFE is "fix delivered", what do I have to do to get it? There seems to be no easy way to get 6u12.

OK So now, what is the situation? In the last build 1.6.0_12-ea-b02, we can find a lib/amd64/libjavaplugin_jni.so but I could not get anything working of it from my Firefox 3. Is it supposed to be that much awaited Java plugin for 64 bits Linux? If yes, how is it supposed to work?

It works finally !!! Just need to link java-6-sun-1.6.0.12/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so in the Firefox plugins directory and we have it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok never mind that, when are you going to release the source code under the GPL?

Well, the new 64 bit plugin didn't work for me. Although I can see it in about:plugins I just see a grey box.

libnpjp2.so works, but doesn't declare it's version properly. Hence when I go to a Raritan network KVM it tries to detect the version, says it isn't at least 1.4.2 and redirects me to Sun.

If I use greasemonkey to disable the javascript that does the version check it does work.

After symlinking, it works great for applets but I don't have so much luck with webstart: "...could not be opened, because an unknown error occurred".

Thanks for addressing this!

Generally works in Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit, even PKCS#11 support (online banking).

There seem still be some rough edges, e.g. everything works well for one site, but subsequent attempts fail (initialization/multithreading?). After restarting Firefox and killing all Java instances everything works again.

Thanks again and best wishes for the upcoming 2009!

(Note that I am using  Build b03).

look good men i need you give me java

Is this release going to fix the Vista x64 Aero problem when J2SE changes the Vista theme to Aero Basic?

According to this SE6 Update 7 is the last working version known by Sun MicroSystems:

Bug ID:  6745683  
Votes  0  
Synopsis  Launching java apps switch from "Vista Aero" to "Vista Basic" appearance  
Category  java:classes_swing  
Reported Against   
Release Fixed   
State  1-Dispatched, bug  
Priority:  3-Medium  
Related Bugs   
Submit Date  08-SEP-2008  
Description  FULL PRODUCT VERSION :
java version "1.6.0_10"


ADDITIONAL OS VERSION INFORMATION :
Windows Vista 64-bit Service Pack 1

EXTRA RELEVANT SYSTEM CONFIGURATION :
Windows Vista Aero display appearance scheme

A DESCRIPTION OF THE PROBLEM :
Windows Vista has a Aero theme which switches to a "Vista Basic" scheme when java app is started


STEPS TO FOLLOW TO REPRODUCE THE PROBLEM :
Install windows Vista on a machine.  Set the theme to Windows Vista Aero.  Download JRE 1.6.0 Update 10 Beta and launch any web-site, which would create a java application pop-up window running java application. The theme gets automatically reverted to Windows Vista Basic and a message is displayed  "Some visual elements have been temporarily disabled. The reason this is happening is that the following programs isn't com[atible with Windows.
  Program : Java (TM) Platform SE Binary .
Publisher : Sun Microsystems , Inc.
The visual elements will be enabled when this program or other incompatible programs are no longer running."

ACTUAL -
The theme gets automatically reverted to Windows Vista Basic and a message is displayed  "Some visual elements have been temporarily disabled. The reason this is happening is that the following programs isn't com[atible with Windows.
  Program : Java (TM) Platform SE Binary .
Publisher : Sun Microsystems , Inc.
The visual elements will be enabled when this program or other incompatible programs are no longer running."


ERROR MESSAGES/STACK TRACES THAT OCCUR :
Error message is displayed  "Some visual elements have been temporarily disabled. The reason this is happening is that the following programs isn't com[atible with Windows.
  Program : Java (TM) Platform SE Binary .
Publisher : Sun Microsystems , Inc.
The visual elements will be enabled when this program or other incompatible programs are no longer running."


REPRODUCIBILITY :
This bug can be reproduced always.

CUSTOMER SUBMITTED WORKAROUND :
None, revert back to Java Version 6 Update 7

The last known working version:
java version "1.6.0_07"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_07-b06)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 10.0-b23, mixed mode, sharing)

Release Regression From : 6u10
The above release value was the last known release where this 
bug was not reproducible. Since then there has been a regression.
Posted Date : 2008-09-08 07:00:05.0

 
Work Around  N/A
 
Evaluation  N/A
 

The bug is still valid for Solaris, and 6u12 is not yet formally released for MS Windows and Linux.

So Happy Birthday to your 6th anniversary.

lol, four years and more that 800 votes were needed to fix this... this sucks guys... small consolation, i encountered this bug only today

Does closed means it's fixed/delivered? Because there's no working plugin for Linux x64 yet!
java.com linux download page highlights that!
Quote from http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com:80 today(23-SEP-2009)
* Please use the 32-bit version for Java applet and Java Web Start support. 

Apparently target was not reached (j6u16 stil does not contains fix).
Has it be decided to postpone the fix to the next bugfix release (java 6u17 ?) or to wait for java 7 ?

Evaluation comment says that it will be fixed for AMD64 arch,  what about Intel 64 arch ? will it be included also in this fix or only planned for java 7 ?

"* Please use the 32-bit version for Java applet and Java Web Start support. "

October 19, 2009.